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Which Lobby Group Is Strongest..
- Thread starter OPTIONAL777
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Laughing when nothing is funny, and then pretending to completely miss the point?
Wow, such original tactics! How the hell do you keep coming up with all that fresh material?
Wow, such original tactics! How the hell do you keep coming up with all that fresh material?
I laugh at you my friend, not your disease. You don't take your disease seriously, then I won't either...
The underlying point never changes with you, the nature of resentment is like that, so there is not any great need for focus on the specifics of your daily drama...
I know how the story eventually ends, and yes, it is not funny...
But you don't really want to get all serious and real, do you?
After all, you are the one who romanticized the heroin addiction and mental illness of Howard Hughes, imaging yourself to be of a similar cloth...
The underlying point never changes with you, the nature of resentment is like that, so there is not any great need for focus on the specifics of your daily drama...
I know how the story eventually ends, and yes, it is not funny...
But you don't really want to get all serious and real, do you?
After all, you are the one who romanticized the heroin addiction and mental illness of Howard Hughes, imaging yourself to be of a similar cloth...
Quote from Rearden Metal:
Laughing when nothing is funny, and then pretending to completely miss the point?
Wow, such original tactics! How the hell do you keep coming up with all that fresh material?
There is no genetic component to the religion of Judaism...which is the only Jewishness that I recognize.
Atheist tribal minded Semites who look to their genetic ancestors for their identity are worthy of rejection...
Atheist tribal minded Semites who look to their genetic ancestors for their identity are worthy of rejection...
Quote from Mom0/pH0x:
you can't tell him that, he rejects the notion that there is any genetic component to jewishness
Quote from OPTIONAL777:
When China wants Taiwan, they will take it and we will not, and cannot stop them...
Nuclear war over Taiwan?
Nope...
"If you want to debate US foreign policy a lot of decisions can be debated, but when people single out Israel and AIPAC, they show their true colors."
Bullshit. I haven't singled out AIPAC, the ET voters did...
In any case, the abuse of political power by AIPAC by a minute percentage of Americans in this country speaks for itself.
If you think about only 2% of voters actually swinging a normal election, then you would see pols pander to gays, women, Asians, voters with Native American blood to some degree, atheists, people living below the poverty line, etc...all of whom represent a greater percentage of the population than Jews.
This is not representative democracy...if it influence peddling by those who can afford it.
Egypt and Jordan don't have anything close to a lobby group like AIPAC...
Hard to find a country outside of the US who has such a strong influence on our government and elections...
You aren't really questioning the fact that jews do have a disproportionate influence on the political process?
On a percentage basis (2%) of population the influence is much greater than 2%.
Women also don't have proper representation in government. Greater than 50% of our people in the US are women, yet do we see 50% women in high levels of government?
The bottom line is these strong influence peddlers like AIPAC and others on the list are not thinking of what is best for America, especially when they represent the interests of just a small percentage of American's interest.
Why not just admit that AIPAC does have a proportionally strong influence on government, and then say, "Of course they do, they should, they are smarter because of their genetics, they have a great concentration of wealth and power, and also they are the chosen people of God."
At least that would be intellectually honest...
You go back to the eternal question and come back with the usual (incorrect) answer. Where do you get the notion that all groups should be equally represented in all walks of life? That ignores their values and ambition. Nobody is surprised that native americans in the US by and large tend to be poor or that amish are hopelessly backward. Success in life does not lend itself to perfect proportions. Why is nobody interested in why puerto ricans essentially accomplished squat in the history of mankind? (same goes for dominican republic, haiti,etc. as well) Negative achievement does not bother anyone, but positive does? You know why? Jealousy, xenophobia, anti semitism.
Why is that cultures that are "relaxed" in terms of time and work tend to be poorer than those that encourage hard work and discipline? Why is that cultures that have no concept of private property are doomed as far as economic development? Some cultures have no concept of time, some have concepts of familial structures that are vastly different from those in the US. Contrary to what idiot zog thought, cultural anthropology, far from a fake science, is quite valuable at studying and explaining different cultures/people.
Is it so hard to believe that a group of people excluded, persecuted and tormented throughout history could learn to band together, rely on their religion to preserve their identity, and emphasize taking advantage of economic opportunities, etc. Over time, emphasizing "proper way of life" can pay dividends big time. We live in the 21st century where titles of nobility essentially mean squat and how rich/famous you are governs almost everything. It was not that way for a long long time. Nobility to a significant degree attended balls, sat in their estates discussing politics and enjoyed life to the fullest. (My high school history book had a caricature of russian nobles playing poker with serfs as chips. That would constitute what I call "parasitic elite".)
Other people, excluded from nobility and government, did all kinds of peddling\jewelry\ and other economic activites that taught them value of money and banding together. They had to band together or die, society singled them out anyway.
Take rotschilds for example. They decided to spread their operations around major cities of europe. Considering war has been the national past time in europe and upheavals were common, what rotschilds did was very wise. You could take this particular example of what they did and amire it/respect it or you could take "the eternal jew" attitude(and be a stupid nazi).
Reading new testament very closely, you are supposed to give your property to the poor and live a miserable existence. If jews decided to make money through lending (and get rich in the process) this shows creative thought and excellent economic thinking. A redneck used to working exclusively with his/her hands will not understand this. Over generations the differences will be profound.
It is not inherent superiority but PROPER VALUES AND WAY OF LIFE that elevate one group of people over another. By "proper" I mean more "correct". Certain traits and values have been judged superior and stood the test of time. Cultures that have no concept of time have no chance, those that have no concept of private property have no chance, those that are very "lax" with work ethic will not be as successful as others.
I could go on and on but it will be pointless because people such as zog/mag light cannot think that deep. They look at a percentage of jews in the US and ponder how they "exert a disproportionate" influence on affairs of US without inquiring as to their values/ambitions and way of life and the genesis of it all.
We all know that US, while around 5% of the population of the world, exerts a disproportionate influence on world affairs. Is it magic or something else at work? Why is no bitching about this from option/mag light etc.? Partly because it is because people believe in the inherent US superiority(natural way of life), partly because we understand that US approach to economics is far superior to botswana for example. No educated person would expect industrialized nations to contribute to world affairs in exact proportion to their populations.
Change the scale but the explanation is quite similar. The refusal and inability of certain individuals to comprehend reasons behind why jews are represented in positions of power disproportionate to their percentage of US population numbers does not indicate a presence of a devious plot.