Whats going on with all these people ready to give up their rights?
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The outcome was unsurprising given the Supreme Court’s long recognition of broad government authority amid public health crises. It's called....precedent. Even if facts were slightly different they upheld the standard that is applied to all cases brought before them.
Same response from the Court would have happened if the claim was infringement of right to assembly or right to religion. Such claims were shot down numerous times by the Circuit courts and Supreme Court that they would also refuse to hear the cases.
COVID does not change the fact pattern that you cannot claim your rights to practice your religion were infringed just because on Easter Sunday you were not allowed to congregate in church due to a health crisis. Sucks I know but its the truth.
Same response from the Court would have happened if the claim was infringement of right to assembly or right to religion. Such claims were shot down numerous times by the Circuit courts and Supreme Court that they would also refuse to hear the cases.
COVID does not change the fact pattern that you cannot claim your rights to practice your religion were infringed just because on Easter Sunday you were not allowed to congregate in church due to a health crisis. Sucks I know but its the truth.
mississippi usa was busting - drive-in- churches, lol. ain't no co-mingling at the drive-in. that seems a stretch in light of the fact pattern of walmart business open as can be, but ma kettle grocery hardware store, sorry no can do. how can this be.
rights are never granted, they are earned the hard way and they are Never returned Voluntarily. Wait till they are gone and try to get 'em back. lol. good luck with that. lotta blood shed and a LOT of lucky breaks involved with any of us below Duke and Earl status having the ability to speak our mind.
the freedoms enjoyed by humanity since 1500 are a fluke, never to be repeated again. Hardwon 'rights' are eroded continuously two steps backward and one step forward, so to speak.
why rush and enable the process further. anyone who wants to lock up at home, please do so. The borg will tell you, Resistance Is Futile on Your pathway to Feudal.
cheers
rights are never granted, they are earned the hard way and they are Never returned Voluntarily. Wait till they are gone and try to get 'em back. lol. good luck with that. lotta blood shed and a LOT of lucky breaks involved with any of us below Duke and Earl status having the ability to speak our mind.
the freedoms enjoyed by humanity since 1500 are a fluke, never to be repeated again. Hardwon 'rights' are eroded continuously two steps backward and one step forward, so to speak.
why rush and enable the process further. anyone who wants to lock up at home, please do so. The borg will tell you, Resistance Is Futile on Your pathway to Feudal.
cheers
You will recall I was not commenting on the outcome but the fact that you said there was no argument and no one would sue or something like that.
Exercise of Religion is an enumerated and protected Constitutional Right so a court might examine the States motives and justifications.
Finally... you underline is simply someone's opinion.... the court issues not comment per your post...
"The court’s denial of the request, issued without comment, means fewer than five of the nine justices supported the petition."
I could just as easily write... Long line of cases in which the court protected citizen's Constitutional rights.
Exercise of Religion is an enumerated and protected Constitutional Right so a court might examine the States motives and justifications.
Finally... you underline is simply someone's opinion.... the court issues not comment per your post...
"The court’s denial of the request, issued without comment, means fewer than five of the nine justices supported the petition."
I could just as easily write... Long line of cases in which the court protected citizen's Constitutional rights.
States that have banned evictions are going to be sued under the 5th Amendment protecting us from seizure of private property for public use without compensation.
Its a "take" and forbidden under the constitution. There are people who have the money but are electing to take advantage of the situation in states where evictions are banned. Some of those bans extend to the end of the calender year.
The states are going to lose and the settlements and judgements paid with taxpayer funds.
"The Fifth Amendment protects the right to private property in two ways. First, it states that a person may not be deprived of property by the government without “due process of law,” or fair procedures. In addition, it sets limits on the traditional practice of eminent domain, such as when the government takes private property to build a public road. Under the Fifth Amendment, such takings must be for a “public use” and require “just compensation” at market value for the property seized. But in Kelo v. City of New London (2005), the Supreme Court interpreted public use broadly to include a “public purpose” of economic development that might directly benefit private parties. In response, many state legislatures passed laws limiting the scope of eminent domain for public use."
Its a "take" and forbidden under the constitution. There are people who have the money but are electing to take advantage of the situation in states where evictions are banned. Some of those bans extend to the end of the calender year.
The states are going to lose and the settlements and judgements paid with taxpayer funds.
"The Fifth Amendment protects the right to private property in two ways. First, it states that a person may not be deprived of property by the government without “due process of law,” or fair procedures. In addition, it sets limits on the traditional practice of eminent domain, such as when the government takes private property to build a public road. Under the Fifth Amendment, such takings must be for a “public use” and require “just compensation” at market value for the property seized. But in Kelo v. City of New London (2005), the Supreme Court interpreted public use broadly to include a “public purpose” of economic development that might directly benefit private parties. In response, many state legislatures passed laws limiting the scope of eminent domain for public use."
I agree the drive through service should have been allowed as long as people stayed in their cars and i could see reverend wearing a mask and blessing each family as they drove by.
This is a new situation and many police and governors went a little far in enforcement or some orders but the general right to do so still stands. Even the complaint that the police went to far in breaking up a drive through service will not result in a successful Constitutional challenge. At best a complaint filed with the local department.
I understand your point but 5th Amendment or takings clause is not applicable if a State puts a temporary restraint on evictions. Landlords can still sue for rent owed. The State did not say people don't have to pay rent if they are able to.
I think a landlord would fail suing a state under the Fifth Amendment. This is not a takings for public use. A landlord would win for suing tenant for failure to pay rent and ask for a judgment that either demands rent paid or lifts the stay on evictions.
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Rahm Emanuel