We won by nearly 3 million votes overall and lost PA,WI and MI by a combined 108,000 votes.We'll be ready in 2020.
Whats all this the polls were rigged stuff?
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We won by nearly 3 million votes overall and lost PA,WI and MI by a combined 108,000 votes.We'll be ready in 2020.
Final polls had Hillary +3,she won by + 2.The super majority of national polls in 2016 showed more people would vote for Hillary,and nearly 3 million more people did vote for Hillary.The polls were right.Hillary just got screwed by a system that lets a candidate win even though more people voted for another candidate.
Ding, Ding, Ding, Ding. WE HAVE A WINNER.
A clear and concise analysis of what the polls predicted versus what actually happened. It suggests there was no 'rigging' of the polls whatsoever.
I came to exact same conclusion as Tony Stark. I did not need Donald Trump to tell me this, I did not need some assclown on the news to tell me, I did not need some creepy homosexual Trump supporter who enjoys molesting children to tell me this. I simply did my own analysis and came to the conclusion that there is no evidence of rigging of the polls.
If anyone remembers this, yeah it was regarding THAT crazy poll number. And yeah, MSNBC edited this video out when Morning Joe ran later that morning.
What do you call it when the sponsoring media outlet tells the polling firm what the results need to be before the poll is conducted?
Let's look at one example of this. IPSOS is a market research firm, not a polling company. Media outlets regularly hired IPSOS to conduct election polling. This why you see news flashes about the AP/IPSOS poll, the NBC/IPSOS poll, Reuters/IPSOS poll etc.
Now for the sad truth... many times the media firm sets the parameters for what the results of the poll need to look like before the polling is performed. I hope everyone sees what is wrong with this.
Let's look at one example of this. IPSOS is a market research firm, not a polling company. Media outlets regularly hired IPSOS to conduct election polling. This why you see news flashes about the AP/IPSOS poll, the NBC/IPSOS poll, Reuters/IPSOS poll etc.
Now for the sad truth... many times the media firm sets the parameters for what the results of the poll need to look like before the polling is performed. I hope everyone sees what is wrong with this.
Final polls had Hillary +3,she won by + 2.The super majority of national polls in 2016 showed more people would vote for Hillary,and nearly 3 million more people did vote for Hillary.The polls were right.Hillary just got screwed by a system that lets a candidate win even though more people voted for another candidate.
Wrong. 4 million of those "popular" votes came from California. How do you explain the state by state polls like Wisconsin where they had her up 8 points in the last poll, but Trump won that state? How do you explain Maines 2nd CD which the last poll had hillary up by 2 points but Trump won it by 10.4 points?
Even the states he was ahead in, they downplayed his lead. Example Indiana where his polls said he was ahead by 10 points, but won it by 19 points! 19 points! That's far beyond the margin of error. Or Alaska...They only had Trump up by 3 points and he won by 15.2 points. Minnesota had Clinton up by 10 points in their last poll and she won by 1.5 and MN has always been a blue state, even when Reagan turned all other 49 states red in 1984.
So you're basing her "popular" vote on her winning a state that has the most illegal aliens(who've admitted to voting) in the entire country.
National polls have a much better track records than state polls and are often done by different pollsters.
Not in Senate elections -- which are the sole exception to this general rule for some reason.