What really happened ....11 september

have u ever asked uself why insurance companies havent at least doubled their premiums after coming to know that buildings can collapse due to fires? u gotta ask uself that.
 
well, yes, but then again why did they pay and not fund a huge
investigation themselves, if they were and are so sure that all
other buildings are safe, thus saying 911 was an insider?
 
plus who knows so well about insurance contracts since then so
well, that (s)he can judge?

sounds to me like a half way conspiracy argument. tons of such
made up the moon haox case, which in my way got vaporised by
official version.
 
Quote from man:

plus who knows so well about insurance contracts since then so
well, that (s)he can judge?

sounds to me like a half way conspiracy argument. tons of such
made up the moon haox case, which in my way got vaporised by
official version.

well, i know something about it since all the spaces i own and rent are insured and some of them are pretty large commercial sites. i dont pay a penny more. i would expect at least a very deep investigation into it, a lot of money here is at stake.

for what concerns investigating/fighting u know it's a non-starter. companies would have to square against the govt and besides that there's a serious taboo everywhere about questioning anything about 911, they prolly would have more to lose then to gain.
 
Quote from Haroki:

Actually, I agree with you somewhat as far as the failure of the intelligence community...

I would not say failure. They had clear information on when the attack would happen.

But I put a large part of the failure on Clinton/Gorelick and their mandates that prevented guys like Able Danger telling the FBI about the terrorists being in the US and of their intentions.

Nonsense, had nothing to do with it. If some mid level guy in FBI knew everything prior to the attack, then the CIA and everyone else above knew it all also. There is no f**king way the FBI bureaucrats would hold this info from the top chain, not in a million years. It's not like it was a hunch either, they had full details. So the only way this info does not get acted on is if someone is pulling strings of the bureaucratic system. It's done all the time, in corporations, local governments, government agencies, etc.

You need to realize that those constraints were put into place so that info gathered by the intel guys could be used in a trial against any terrorists that committed any terrorist acts in the US. So it had a good motive behind it.

You need to realize that the FBI and CIA, as well as the standard police force, have done whatever needed to be done in the past to bypass the constraints. The bureaucratic rules are there more as a guideline and will be enforced unless the situation is truly critical. The official reasons for the Patriot Act I & II and Military Commissions Act are pure BULLSHIT. FBI, CIA and the police force never stopped themselves from stepping over the line if it was truly of critical nature, sometimes they did so for personal gain and corrupt reasons as well.

But wouldn't it have been better to use that intel to PREVENT any attacks? What would our world be like today if the FBI could have seen that intel?

You cannot be this naive. Seriously, I think your brain hiccuped right there, try again.


It's funny, I posted the source from which you will find the document that is almost irrefutable proof that the government knew of 9/11 beforehand. There are many more, but this is directly from the source.
Not one of you had bothered to spend the time to read the document for yourself. This is why I say there is no need for conspiracies nowdays, you guys are too easy to control & distract. Arguing the melting point of steel, man who the f**k cares, the fact is that they stood aside and allowed it happen, with an agenda ready in place to execute. There may never been any need for demolition and maybe there was, it's not the point.
How many more hints do you need to understand what is going on? But hey, I am talking to a nation that complains about the Iraq war & Bush, yet manages to re-elect him for the second time. Then complain about him even more. This is movie material.

A girl told me this recently, I thought it was quite clever. This nations president represent's its people. So, in essense, George Bush Jr. should be president cause he represents it quite well. For those that are dense, he is a moron, in case you could not tell.
 
they had tons of info about the attacks. for gawd sake, the fbi admits they discovered the money trail that lead up to the pakistani intel chief. that's right, the guy sent 100k bucks to atta and it's all documented. what happened to him? why was he left off the hook.
Quote from Hydroblunt:

I would not say failure. They had clear information on when the attack would happen.



Nonsense, had nothing to do with it. If some mid level guy in FBI knew everything prior to the attack, then the CIA and everyone else above knew it all also. There is no f**king way the FBI bureaucrats would hold this info from the top chain, not in a million years. It's not like it was a hunch either, they had full details. So the only way this info does not get acted on is if someone is pulling strings of the bureaucratic system. It's done all the time, in corporations, local governments, government agencies, etc.



You need to realize that the FBI and CIA, as well as the standard police force, have done whatever needed to be done in the past to bypass the constraints. The bureaucratic rules are there more as a guideline and will be enforced unless the situation is truly critical. The official reasons for the Patriot Act I & II and Military Commissions Act are pure BULLSHIT. FBI, CIA and the police force never stopped themselves from stepping over the line if it was truly of critical nature, sometimes they did so for personal gain and corrupt reasons as well.



You cannot be this naive. Seriously, I think your brain hiccuped right there, try again.


It's funny, I posted the source from which you will find the document that is almost irrefutable proof that the government knew of 9/11 beforehand. There are many more, but this is directly from the source.
Not one of you had bothered to spend the time to read the document for yourself. This is why I say there is no need for conspiracies nowdays, you guys are too easy to control & distract. Arguing the melting point of steel, man who the f**k cares, the fact is that they stood aside and allowed it happen, with an agenda ready in place to execute. There may never been any need for demolition and maybe there was, it's not the point.
How many more hints do you need to understand what is going on? But hey, I am talking to a nation that complains about the Iraq war & Bush, yet manages to re-elect him for the second time. Then complain about him even more. This is movie material.

A girl told me this recently, I thought it was quite clever. This nations president represent's its people. So, in essense, George Bush Jr. should be president cause he represents it quite well. For those that are dense, he is a moron, in case you could not tell.
 
Quote from man:

you "own and rent" steel framed skyscrapers? wow. ET is now
and then really surprising ...

lmao, i wish.:D

one of the spaces is located in a high rise. the rest are all normal bulidings but if a fire can bring down a skyscraper why shouldnt be able to bring down other bulidings as well.
 
Quote from Hydroblunt:

It's funny, I posted the source from which you will find the document that is almost irrefutable proof that the government knew of 9/11 beforehand. There are many more, but this is directly from the source.
Not one of you had bothered to spend the time to read the document for yourself. This is why I say there is no need for conspiracies nowdays, you guys are too easy to control & distract.

A girl told me this recently, I thought it was quite clever. This nations president represent's its people. So, in essense, George Bush Jr. should be president cause he represents it quite well. For those that are dense, he is a moron, in case you could not tell.
could you post that link again? this thread is so long and i did not
follow all debates.

on the girls quote: well, that is the real thing here. half of the
world's military budget in the hands of dumb politicians, a dumb
people and dumb media (expection: comedy central).
 
Quote from Bitstream:

... if a fire can bring down a skyscraper why shouldnt be able to bring down other bulidings as well.
dpt will come back to you on that. ... :)
 
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