What really happened ....11 september

Quote from man:

dpt will come back to you on that. ... :)

the high rise is steel framed.

i know where u are getting up but given the money at stake and the shabby investigation by the nist there's no conclusive proof that steel weakening was responsible for the collapse. there's just 5 half pages in the nist report explaining the collapse after the pancake crap was deemed impossible and the conclusions are not backed by evidence.

the fires in the towers were not even close to be high enough to weaken the steel. it's well documented in the nist report that temperatures of the steel analyzed were around 250 degrees. they think steel reached 600+ but they dont know. at least that's what i recall, i will have to dig up links...as i said i will come back later with everything.
 
Quote from Hydroblunt:

[It's funny, I posted the source from which you will find the document that is almost irrefutable proof that the government knew of 9/11 beforehand. There are many more, but this is directly from the source.
Not one of you had ..........


A girl told me this recently, I thought it was quite clever. This nations president represent's its people. So, in essense, George Bush Jr. should be president cause he represents it quite well. For those that are dense, he is a moron, in case you could not tell. [/B]


Lord help me, I can't help myself. This thread is the scab you can't stop picking at.

A few things, A link to www.sec.gov doesn't exactly support your claim that the "government knew". http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&postid=1314186#post1314186

Thank you for the amusement this morn, there are few things more comical and pathetic than someone ridiculing other peoples' intelligence in profoundly stupid ways. "A girl told me this ....."

:p

As for insider trading, a lack of insider trading activity would have been a far better indicator of a conspiracy. Have YOU NUTJOBS failed to consider that Al Qaeda and all its supporters, and it has many, might have taken advantage of such a ripe situation?!

Finally, when I was told that the first plane hit one of the towers, that very first thing that popped into my head was "BIN LADEN!". EVERYONE KNEW THEY WERE TARGETING THE WTC.

They designed the new buildings in such a way as to be harder to hit for shit's sakes ....

........ please dismiss me as another one of the sheeple and not respond, I'm trying to exorcise this thread from my conscious and ignoring me would go a long way toward that end.
 
hydro i think u are missing the point.

if the towers were demolished, and i think this is a very salient argument with staggering implications, means the govt didnt just let it happen but was complicit into a treasonous conspiracy to commit murder.
 
lmao the fbi new, have u read the post about the money trail? that is indisputable fact...even scores of govt figures are ourtraged it was not included in the 911 commission report.
Quote from neophyte321:

Lord help me, I can't help myself. This thread is the scab you can't stop picking at.

A few things, A link to www.sec.gov doesn't exactly support your claim that the "government knew". http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&postid=1314186#post1314186

Thank you for the amusement this morn, there are few things more comical and pathetic than someone ridiculing other peoples' intelligence in profoundly stupid ways. "A girl told me this ....."

:p

As for insider trading, a lack of insider trading activity would have been a far better indicator of a conspiracy. Have YOU NUTJOBS failed to consider that Al Qaeda and all its supporters, and it has many, might have taken advantage of such a ripe situation?!

Finally, when I was told that the first plane hit one of the towers, that very first thing that popped into my head was "BIN LADEN!". EVERYONE KNEW THEY WERE TARGETING THE WTC.

They designed the new buildings in such a way as to be harder to hit for shit's sakes ....

........ please dismiss me as another one of the sheeple and not respond, I'm trying to exorcise this thread from my conscious and ignoring me would go a long way toward that end.
 
Quote from Hydroblunt:



A girl told me this recently, I thought it was quite clever. This nations president represent's its people. So, in essense, George Bush Jr. should be president cause he represents it quite well. For those that are dense, he is a moron, in case you could not tell.

So you talk to retarded girls?... Only a retard would say such a
stupid thing. You should really try to talk to girls with an IQ over 80...:D
 
Quote from Bitstream:

lemme tell u something; i did a lot of research lately on prof jones and after what i've found i wouldn't take all he's written that seriously. he jumps to conclusions on many instances and failed to identify alternatives on serious matters. this certainly doesnt change my views of 911 but his research is somewhat biased.


edit; yeah the work jones submitted is peer reviewed but received strong criticisms from the scholars for truth movement. will post links later and a thorough reply to your posts in the following days....i have to dig up links, statements. etc to back up my case.

LMAO.....
 
Quote from Hydroblunt:

I would not say failure. They had clear information on when the attack would happen.



Nonsense, had nothing to do with it. If some mid level guy in FBI knew everything prior to the attack, then the CIA and everyone else above knew it all also. There is no f**king way the FBI bureaucrats would hold this info from the top chain, not in a million years. It's not like it was a hunch either, they had full details. So the only way this info does not get acted on is if someone is pulling strings of the bureaucratic system. It's done all the time, in corporations, local governments, government agencies, etc.



You need to realize that the FBI and CIA, as well as the standard police force, have done whatever needed to be done in the past to bypass the constraints. The bureaucratic rules are there more as a guideline and will be enforced unless the situation is truly critical. The official reasons for the Patriot Act I & II and Military Commissions Act are pure BULLSHIT. FBI, CIA and the police force never stopped themselves from stepping over the line if it was truly of critical nature, sometimes they did so for personal gain and corrupt reasons as well.



You cannot be this naive. Seriously, I think your brain hiccuped right there, try again.


It's funny, I posted the source from which you will find the document that is almost irrefutable proof that the government knew of 9/11 beforehand. There are many more, but this is directly from the source.
Not one of you had bothered to spend the time to read the document for yourself. This is why I say there is no need for conspiracies nowdays, you guys are too easy to control & distract. Arguing the melting point of steel, man who the f**k cares, the fact is that they stood aside and allowed it happen, with an agenda ready in place to execute. There may never been any need for demolition and maybe there was, it's not the point.
How many more hints do you need to understand what is going on? But hey, I am talking to a nation that complains about the Iraq war & Bush, yet manages to re-elect him for the second time. Then complain about him even more. This is movie material.

A girl told me this recently, I thought it was quite clever. This nations president represent's its people. So, in essense, George Bush Jr. should be president cause he represents it quite well. For those that are dense, he is a moron, in case you could not tell.


So which is it -

The FBI, etc were controlled by the bureaucrats and prevented from spreading intel?

or they will do whatever it takes to bypass constraints?

It can't be both....

ANd look up 'stovepiping' and what it means regarding the intel community....
 
Quote from Bitstream:

have u ever asked uself why insurance companies havent at least doubled their premiums after coming to know that buildings can collapse due to fires? u gotta ask uself that.

Have you ever asked ypurself why steel framed buildings (like the WTC) have fire proofing on their trusses, etc?

Maybe it's because they realize that they CAN be brought down by fires.... Hmmmmm?
 
Quote from Haroki:

LMAO.....


what's so funny....unlike u i am after the truth not any conceivable way and rationalizations to back the claims it was not an inside job.
 
Quote from man:

could you post that link again? this thread is so long and i did not
follow all debates.

on the girls quote: well, that is the real thing here. half of the
world's military budget in the hands of dumb politicians, a dumb
people and dumb media (expection: comedy central).

dumb = criminal
 
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