what u mean nobody knows him? the name is there for u to see and research if u dont believe. and why u think nobody has spoken yet? look what's apparently happening to this guy, hes receiving threatening calls...what u think could happen to other military personell speaking out while still working for norad or centcon? i dont know if the story is true or false but it certainly doesnt make much sense to make ll this shit up and quote a man with the dear consequences u could face. a bit of research could clear the matter up, beginning with the name of the mole.
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What really happened ....11 september
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i meant the guy who said they were told to keep the planes down.Quote from Bitstream:
what u mean nobody knows him?
i see where you are coming from. yes, it is devastating for one's
reputation, troublesome, calls and so forth. but excuse me, we
are talking about at least a dozen people at NORAD who were
not part of the conspiracy and found out about it minutes after
it happened. why would such lieutenant, who must have been
part of the plan or at least be informed early on, say something
like this? and why did non of these soldiers come up with
something? given the huge trauma of the country, they did not
bring this up because they feared their boss, or some phone
calls? not to speak of their oath on the constitution which they
would break by not bringing this up.
do not get me wrong here. i think it is important to use the same
level of scepticism for the conspiracy material as one uses for
the official stuff. i don't by one or the other at face value.
and classified material of this kind lying on a table and the other
guy takes it and reads it quite in detail ... hey, this is military,
drilled people. that is at least a little unusual, right?
and you must not forget that military as such is not so pro-bush.
there MUST be a stream of information or a net of people who
know about these things, if a dozen people at NORAD knew it
on 911 morning. and at least in midst of the iraq desaster there
MUST be somebody coming up with evidence of this kind. i mean
we are talking about mass murder on homeland by the government
here! this looks only great in detail, but not out of some distance.
and do not forget that alex jones' job description is airing such
information. if we use these arguments for the other side, we
must apply them here as well.
there MUST be a stream of information or a net of people who
know about these things, if a dozen people at NORAD knew it
on 911 morning. and at least in midst of the iraq desaster there
MUST be somebody coming up with evidence of this kind. i mean
we are talking about mass murder on homeland by the government
here! this looks only great in detail, but not out of some distance.
and do not forget that alex jones' job description is airing such
information. if we use these arguments for the other side, we
must apply them here as well.
nobody in his right mind still holding a job in the military would open his mouth; look what happpened to the many who spoke out against the goverment..they all got either fired, discharged or threatened. if i had a familiy to feed i wouldnt talk and i would also fear for my own life, regardless.
still, there are many ex-cia and ex mi5 officers that have alreading spoken out...their testimonies are all over the net. much of what they say is a matter of opinion but it raises a lot of questions due to the nature of the job they were holding, the experience, the insight into gov working and above all the credibility they inspire.
still, there are many ex-cia and ex mi5 officers that have alreading spoken out...their testimonies are all over the net. much of what they say is a matter of opinion but it raises a lot of questions due to the nature of the job they were holding, the experience, the insight into gov working and above all the credibility they inspire.
Quote from man:
and you must not forget that military as such is not so pro-bush.
there MUST be a stream of information or a net of people who
know about these things, if a dozen people at NORAD knew it
on 911 morning. and at least in midst of the iraq desaster there
MUST be somebody coming up with evidence of this kind. i mean
we are talking about mass murder on homeland by the government
here! this looks only great in detail, but not out of some distance.
and do not forget that alex jones' job description is airing such
information. if we use these arguments for the other side, we
must apply them here as well.
i see your points. i don't know. essentially you are saying that
all higher ranks in US military are involved in this. if anybody
was not, (s)he would setup an investigation. this conspiracy
btw would include colin powell.
i am not a military person at all, but i would think that courage
is part of the job. you can't make high ranks easily shut up. that
might seem to be possible if you look from outside, but it is really
not easy i would think.
i remain sceptic.
all higher ranks in US military are involved in this. if anybody
was not, (s)he would setup an investigation. this conspiracy
btw would include colin powell.
i am not a military person at all, but i would think that courage
is part of the job. you can't make high ranks easily shut up. that
might seem to be possible if you look from outside, but it is really
not easy i would think.
i remain sceptic.
colin has resigned and if u recall the reasons he gave were that he didn't go along with the ideology driven strategies of the administration. maybe that has something to do with him standing down, dont u think. i cant see powell speaking out since he was part of the whole affair even tho reluctantly, but he was still complicit nevertheless. i cant say for sure what happened that day but am willing to speculate chances are the government had much to do with it and therefore all the highest ranking military and civilian men were also involved and have zip motive to talk about it...imo it is not a big deal and dont come to me as as a surprise or a one of a kind event. politics are dirty and always been conducted with zero scruples, the op northwood decalssified doc proves these kinda acts are not only possible but also likely to take place.
Quote from man:
i see your points. i don't know. essentially you are saying that
all higher ranks in US military are involved in this. if anybody
was not, (s)he would setup an investigation. this conspiracy
btw would include colin powell.
i am not a military person at all, but i would think that courage
is part of the job. you can't make high ranks easily shut up. that
might seem to be possible if you look from outside, but it is really
not easy i would think.
i remain sceptic.
the surprise is the homogenous effort of at least two dozenQuote from Bitstream:
... all the highest ranking military and civilian men were also involved and have zip motive to talk about it...imo it is not a big deal and dont come to me as as a surprise or a one of a kind event. politics are dirty and always been conducted with zero scruples ...
higher ranks for a criminal project. but i respect your points
and way of argument.
Quote from man:
the surprise is the homogenous effort of at least two dozen
higher ranks for a criminal project. but i respect your points
and way of argument.
that's the problem imo....u and many others cannot see it other than a criminal project but i bet in the perpetuators own minds it was everything but criminal...it was a sort of startegy were the means justified the acts. 3000 deaths for a brighter future for america, maybe they thought many more lives would have been saved and countless deaths pervented+ the economical benefits, and so on and on...
Either did the congressional members who have taken this persons testimony in several hearings.....the person of the story btw has an impeccable military record and has had several other testify to the same information.....but don't expect any congressman to run out and push for a true reinvestigation of 9/11 (they do not have the courage to).Quote from man:
there is a guy leaving highly classified material on the
table and another guy picks it up and starts to study
it? aha.
then there is a lieutanent giving out information on the
most classified material possible, yet nobody knows who
he is?
and all this comes up after full five years have passed
by? and none of the other guys who heard that went
public? and why? because it was an order? an everybody
ignored that it was illegal and the respective soldier
bringing it up did not need to fear prosecution?
so in essence at NORAD itself at least a dozen people
knew for sure minutes after second impact that this
was a conspiracy done by the american government
against the american people and nobody said anything
for five years? at least: hard to swallow. alex jones
does not seem to have a problem with it. well he makes
money on this kind of information. he does not have
to stand straight for its correctness ...