What price religion?
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absolutely, axe. i agree 100 %. religion doesn't kill, people kill.
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surfer
First of all, if there is a God that created something as complex as this universe you would expect Him to be rather surprising.Quote from spect8or:
Stu, thanks for bringing up the Trinity. That's another Christian doctrine that I find completely implausible.
The Father, The Son and The Holy Ghost are all supposed to be the same person, but they're also different entities.It just defies basic logic.
But more importantly, if the multidimensionality of string theory holds to be true, then suddenly the "paradox" of the Trinity would be suddenly explainable.
Ahhhh.... but there is a difference.
Unlike a car that cant drive itself into another human,
or a gun that cant fire own its own, religions DO IN FACT
EXPLICITLY COMMAND their followers to KILL.
We cant directly blame a car or gun, but we can in fact
DIRECTLY blame a religion which commands its followers
to EXPLICITLY kill.
Technically.... christians should stone me to death upon
sight as an infidel.
And all muslims SHOULD wipe out every non-muslim in the world
if they were true to the koran. Those pesky infidels/non-believers
should all be destroyed ya know
No, sorry but ..... "Religions dont kill, people kill" doesnt hold water.
Its true in some cases, but not true in others.
peace
axeman
Unlike a car that cant drive itself into another human,
or a gun that cant fire own its own, religions DO IN FACT
EXPLICITLY COMMAND their followers to KILL.
We cant directly blame a car or gun, but we can in fact
DIRECTLY blame a religion which commands its followers
to EXPLICITLY kill.
Technically.... christians should stone me to death upon
sight as an infidel.
And all muslims SHOULD wipe out every non-muslim in the world
if they were true to the koran. Those pesky infidels/non-believers
should all be destroyed ya know
No, sorry but ..... "Religions dont kill, people kill" doesnt hold water.
Its true in some cases, but not true in others.
peace
axeman
Marketsurfer, just compare the two dude.
How many times have you heard people admit they done something bad, like murder or violence, because their religion made them do it, or they done it in the name of their religion? Too numerous to mention, isn't it?
How many times have you heard people admit to have done something bad because science made them do it?
It's black and white.
How many times have you heard people admit they done something bad, like murder or violence, because their religion made them do it, or they done it in the name of their religion? Too numerous to mention, isn't it?
How many times have you heard people admit to have done something bad because science made them do it?
It's black and white.
http://www.jewsforjesus.org/library/issues/01-08/jewish.htm
Spect8or. Scroll down the page an you will see and excellent argument showing that Hear, O Isreal the Lord our God, the Lord is One. One is "Echad" used in other places in the bible meaning a compound oneness. Like combining night and day into one day. The Jews for Jesus cite has some excellent arguments.
This is not to say I do not understand where you are coming from. Its just that Catholics have lawyered up against the Protestant arguments and vice versa and they have both lawyered up against the non-beleiver. Just about every argument is very well argued.
So in the end you just have to pick a side. But I do not believe you can pick out a passage in the bible and watch the house of cards crumble. There have been great minds for centuries poking holes and great minds filling them in.
Spect8or. Scroll down the page an you will see and excellent argument showing that Hear, O Isreal the Lord our God, the Lord is One. One is "Echad" used in other places in the bible meaning a compound oneness. Like combining night and day into one day. The Jews for Jesus cite has some excellent arguments.
This is not to say I do not understand where you are coming from. Its just that Catholics have lawyered up against the Protestant arguments and vice versa and they have both lawyered up against the non-beleiver. Just about every argument is very well argued.
So in the end you just have to pick a side. But I do not believe you can pick out a passage in the bible and watch the house of cards crumble. There have been great minds for centuries poking holes and great minds filling them in.
Where are you getting this stuff?
I don't know a Christian that believes in violence to obtain ANYTHING much less stoning someone for being an infidel.
I know a few Christians that have held non-violent protests against abortion clinics but that's it.
Unless you're going to associate all of us with Eric Rudolf of course, but then I'll associate you with Stalin and Lenin...
I think you're avoiding my point: if string theory is true and there is an intelligent First Cause, then multidimensionality holds the scientific framework to explain the Trinity and a host of other seemingly paradoxical doctrines.