>I find no more comfort in unfounded beliefs of naturalists than >those of religious zealots(well, yes I do...the naturalists aren't >killing each other)
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Is that so? You really ought to do just a little more investigation.
>There is no big deal if one doesn't care about all the death and >destruction caused by religion vs religion
Could you provide some kind of documentation, like names, places, dates, and numbers? It would really help if you could substantiate your vague generalizations and empty assertions.
Here is a good web site with help for people suffering from ideological self-deception.
http://www.gmu.edu/departments/economics/bcaplan/museum/musframe.htm
Consider the following books:
The Black Book of Communism: Crimes, Terror, Repression
Death by Government
Both are available at Amazon.
Here is the web page for the author of Death by Government
http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/
From Publisher's Weekly, commenting on The Black Book of Communism:
"Essentially a body count of communism's victims in the 20th century, the book draws heavily from recently opened Soviet archives. The verdict: communism was responsible for between 85 million and 100 million deaths in the century."
http://www.polishlibrary.org/review/black_book_of_communism.htm
From the web site above:
"The Russian experience is thoroughly discussed starting with Lenin who impressed on his countrymen that the "kulaks" must be crushed without pity because they are rich bastards and blood-suckers who should be hanged. After all, some owned two samovars and were observed visiting churches much too often. Thirty categories were deprived of civil rights because they were ex-shopkeepers, ex-employees of private companies, ex-monks, and those who collected stamps or spoke Esperanto because they were potential spies. The law of 1934 took care of them: no legal representation, the dreaded so-called troika trial, no appeal, immediate execution
This Great Terror caused 6 million arrests, 3 million executions and 2 million deaths in camps. Here are a few additional grim statistics of world communism: close to 100 million people were killed, half of them by the Soviets, the other half mainly by the Chinese. The preferred method was starvation, no matter the victim's origin, belief, or occupation. At one point Soviet luminaries began to disappear quickly: 3 marshals out of 5, 13 generals out of 15, 8 admirals out of 9, 50 army corps generals out of 57, and 154 division generals out of 186. As Andrei Vyshinsky shouted, "Shoot these rabid dogs." Jean-Paul Sartre said in 1952; "Any anti-Communist is a dog!" We also may recall that Molotov's wife was arrested and shipped to a camp and Stalins personal secretary's wife was shot in 1952. Both gentlemen served Stalin as though nothing of importance had happened.
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So the naturalists aren't killing each other? You must have gone to public school. My, my, those poor naturalists, such benign, goodhearted and terribly misunderstood folks.
**
Is that so? You really ought to do just a little more investigation.
>There is no big deal if one doesn't care about all the death and >destruction caused by religion vs religion
Could you provide some kind of documentation, like names, places, dates, and numbers? It would really help if you could substantiate your vague generalizations and empty assertions.
Here is a good web site with help for people suffering from ideological self-deception.
http://www.gmu.edu/departments/economics/bcaplan/museum/musframe.htm
Consider the following books:
The Black Book of Communism: Crimes, Terror, Repression
Death by Government
Both are available at Amazon.
Here is the web page for the author of Death by Government
http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/
From Publisher's Weekly, commenting on The Black Book of Communism:
"Essentially a body count of communism's victims in the 20th century, the book draws heavily from recently opened Soviet archives. The verdict: communism was responsible for between 85 million and 100 million deaths in the century."
http://www.polishlibrary.org/review/black_book_of_communism.htm
From the web site above:
"The Russian experience is thoroughly discussed starting with Lenin who impressed on his countrymen that the "kulaks" must be crushed without pity because they are rich bastards and blood-suckers who should be hanged. After all, some owned two samovars and were observed visiting churches much too often. Thirty categories were deprived of civil rights because they were ex-shopkeepers, ex-employees of private companies, ex-monks, and those who collected stamps or spoke Esperanto because they were potential spies. The law of 1934 took care of them: no legal representation, the dreaded so-called troika trial, no appeal, immediate execution
This Great Terror caused 6 million arrests, 3 million executions and 2 million deaths in camps. Here are a few additional grim statistics of world communism: close to 100 million people were killed, half of them by the Soviets, the other half mainly by the Chinese. The preferred method was starvation, no matter the victim's origin, belief, or occupation. At one point Soviet luminaries began to disappear quickly: 3 marshals out of 5, 13 generals out of 15, 8 admirals out of 9, 50 army corps generals out of 57, and 154 division generals out of 186. As Andrei Vyshinsky shouted, "Shoot these rabid dogs." Jean-Paul Sartre said in 1952; "Any anti-Communist is a dog!" We also may recall that Molotov's wife was arrested and shipped to a camp and Stalins personal secretary's wife was shot in 1952. Both gentlemen served Stalin as though nothing of importance had happened.
"
So the naturalists aren't killing each other? You must have gone to public school. My, my, those poor naturalists, such benign, goodhearted and terribly misunderstood folks.
