What it takes to develop a profitable trading system?

There's always constantly lingering inherent dangers in the market. It's all about how you're able to perceive and act and react accordingly to it...in real-time, without getting too razzled and mentally distraught.

If you're overly cautious, so much so that you can't step one foot into the trading war zone battlefield...be someone's accountant instead, behind the safety of a desk.

Don't search for a profitable system, instead work on developing a profitable you. Embrace the unknown future.
Good luck and Mazal tov and May the Farce be With you 2018
I concur. I could show someone what I do but I cant teach how to react to what the market does. many systems are good but without the feeling of knowing when to act they may not make money
 
Let's say I'm convinced that 90% (perhaps more) of the successful traders are just random survivors. Not skill but luck.

If you're very risk-adverse, you would be profitable in theory but in practice you get no opportunities. If you "step into the warzone" too much, you will lose. So there's a fine line between too much and too little, which smells too much as luck to me.
 
Let's say I'm convinced that 90% (perhaps more) of the successful traders are just random survivors. Not skill but luck.

If you're very risk-adverse, you would be profitable in theory but in practice you get no opportunities. If you "step into the warzone" too much, you will lose. So there's a fine line between too much and too little, which smells too much as luck to me.
In the grand scheme of things, does it matter? I would rather be a dumb investor in the current market, without skill but gets 30% return than a smart one getting 5% during the lone bear of 1973-1982. Of course I should not be too greedy and should keep taking money off the table. In other words, I would rather be luck than be good.
 
Let's say I'm convinced that 90% (perhaps more) of the successful traders are just random survivors. Not skill but luck.

If you're very risk-adverse, you would be profitable in theory but in practice you get no opportunities. If you "step into the warzone" too much, you will lose. So there's a fine line between too much and too little, which smells too much as luck to me.

You just proved that you still have a long way to go, and have almost no clue what to do to become successful as a trader.

Successful traders are surely not random survivors. And they need skills. The fact that you don't have these skills brings you to your conclusion (which is wrong). You don't see or understand why it is not random.
You can be risk-adverse and have plenty of opportunities.
 
In the grand scheme of things, does it matter? I would rather be a dumb investor in the current market, without skill but gets 30% return than a smart one getting 5% during the lone bear of 1973-1982. Of course I should not be too greedy and should keep taking money off the table. In other words, I would rather be luck than be good.
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Ironchef, looking back at historical charts, we are in unchartered territory. In other words the markets are not facing an upper resistance line created from the previous Bull Market.
Example:
2003-2007 Bull Market was facing the previous Bull Markets (1994-2000) Resistance of 1550.
Interesting enough what we are now facing is the Federal Reserves, Federal Fund Rate.
In every past historical example of the last several decades, whenever the Federal Funds rate hits the 4.00% to 5.00% range, a Bull Market usually converts to a Bear Market.
The most telling and detailed chart on this subject is below:

https://www.crystalbull.com/stock-market-timing/Fed-Funds-Prime-Rate-chart/
Fed Funds Prime Interest Rate Chart as Stock Market Indicator

Note:
Top Chart: SP500 price chart.
Bottom chart: Fed Fund Rate - Green line / Prime Rate - Purple line /
CPI - Yellow line
 
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Ironchef, looking back at historical charts, we are in unchartered territory. In other words the markets are not facing an upper resistance line created from the previous Bull Market.
Example:
2003-2007 Bull Market was facing the previous Bull Markets (1994-2000) Resistance of 1550.
Interesting enough what we are now facing is the Federal Reserves, Federal Fund Rate.
In every past historical example of the last several decades, whenever the Federal Funds rate hits the 4.00% to 5.00% range, a Bull Market usually converts to a Bear Market.
The most telling and detailed chart on this subject is below:

https://www.crystalbull.com/stock-market-timing/Fed-Funds-Prime-Rate-chart/
Fed Funds Prime Interest Rate Chart as Stock Market Indicator

Note:
Top Chart: SP500 price chart.
Bottom chart: Fed Fund Rate - Green line / Prime Rate - Purple line /
CPI - Yellow line
Thank you.
 
Thank you.
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I just noticed you live in Southern CA. We just moved from Southern CA (Carlsbad) in Sept
2016 to cold and snowy North Eastern WA (2 miles from the North Western Pan Handle
of Idaho). We went from being 1 block from the beach in Carlsbad, 60 to 80 degrees year around, to 20-30 degree winters with snow, trapped like a mushroom indoors.
I really miss SoCal! (We moved here because family and friends live here.)
 
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I just noticed you live in Southern CA. We just moved from Southern CA (Carlsbad) in Sept
2016 to cold and snowy North Eastern WA (2 miles from the North Western Pan Handle
of Idaho). We went from being 1 block from the beach in Carlsbad, 60 to 80 degrees year around, to 20-30 degree winters with snow, trapped like a mushroom indoors.
I really miss SoCal! (We moved here because family and friends live here.)
Congratulations on your move!

It is a good thing, a smart real estates guy would do, leave the high price SoCal house to someone else, bank your profit and buy two, bigger and nicer houses in Idaho.:thumbsup: If you miss the beach, you can always come back for a visit here and there.:)

It is similar to the smart money professional traders taking money off the table while mom and pop retails like me rush in to buy.

best wishes and enjoy Idaho, it is a nice place.:thumbsup:
 
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