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What is the best country to leave the US for?
- Thread starter fatrat
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I was thinking of moving to NZ, too.
Quote from dcvtss:
Could you speak a little more on Curitiba? Have you spent any time there? I've always thought it looks like a very nice place.
I only spent a week total between Florianopolis and Curitiba, so some of my impressions might be wrong but I'll give it a shot.
Between the two I preferred Florianopolis. The city is sort of split up into two parts, with half of it on the mainland, and half of it on the island of Santa Catarina. Most of the industry is on the mainland part, so on the island you only have residential areas, some shopping areas, and the most amazing beaches I've ever seen. The infrastructure is good, but there's only a few small roads on the eastern half of the island. If you live there you have the impression of living in some kind of tropical paradise, while being only a 20 minute drive from a large, modern city.
If Curitiba was on the ocean I might have liked it more than Florianopolis. For a small city it seemed like they had a really good arts scene, and the architecture/city design was very nice. Three days wasn't much time, so I mostly just walked around and visited the botanical gardens and a few other sights.
It was in my third month in Brazil (my last month) that I visited these places, and I immediately wished I had spent less time in Rio and more time down there.
Even for those who aren't gun-toting expats, these cities are really nice. If anybody's planning a trip to Brazil I would highly recommend visiting them.
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Quote from dandxg:
Dubai, why? 125F in the summer, the heck with that. If WWIII breaks out it will be in the Mid East and I don't want to be anywhere near there.
Do you really think it will matter where you are if WWIII breaks out and nukes are used?
Besides, Dubai has no taxes on income if you are a resident. Perfect for trading and business....guess you're not really a trader?
It meets the OP's criteria. Fatrat made no mention of the weather
Yes, and soon to be exporter of significant amount of Alcohol fuel and has about 1/3 of world's liquid fresh water. Brazil has a strong comodities based economy (world leader in exports of soybean, beef, iron ore, etc. resulting in the Real having more than doubled against the dollar in last 3 years. IMHO, the destine of Brazil in about a decade is to be an "economic colony" of China (and decade later of all the "Asian tigers") Some industries have shut down (called "de-industralization") with the strong real, but others with higher value added products, such as cars and airplanes are doing well despite the strong Real. (Embaraer, is now third largest and most rapidly growing maker of airplane, has one crop-duster that runs on alcohol. Last year its corporate jet collided with big jet, braking it up in mid air with all154 on board dying, but Embaraer's much smaller jet flew on half hour and landed safely. Orders surged for it - several years of backlog to get one now. Now has joint owned factor in China producing their main mid size, 80 to 130 seats, very efficient jets. As motors etc are imported, the strong Real is sort of a wash on their exports.)Quote from dandxg:
... Brazil is independent of Mid East Oil, a big plus. Plus I have heard the water is warm and beaches are nice.
A closing note. I have live in Brazil for 14 years now. (A retired American "expat.") Most uper class urbanites can can speak some English. A friend, owner of an "international bar" 4 minute walk from my house, calls when one of his customers wants to practice his English. I only go when convient for me to drink beers for free. I.e. there can be advantage to non-English country that is learning English.
Unfortunately, in Sao Paulo, a few blocks from Ave. Paulista. I do get to lake site near Jacarei, where I am slowing building a house by myself (good exercise and fresh air) for two days every week if rain not forecasted. (I use bus and leave 4 wheel drive car in motel where I spend one night. Sleep 40 minutes on it on return to SP trip as very tired. )Quote from fearless9:
Where do you live in Brazil
is this a joke?...seriously asking...thanks for the serious reply...explain more...I think this is another joke thread?Quote from fatrat:
Ok, so I contemplated Canada already (see my other thread.) But if -you- could drop it all and leave and go elsewhere, where would you go?
I am very unsatisfied with the US government and do not want to stay here, start a family here, or give so much as one more dollar to the IRS. I want to leave, right after I finish my master's degree.
Ideally, the new place is:
- Politically stable
- Safe
- Universities will be easy to go to and learn
- Easy to make some money in
- Very low immigration hassles
- Friendly to non-whites
- People know English there, or the language is easy to learn
And finally:
- Likely to survive world war 4 and nuclear winds, since I think Bush will kick off the worst war in the history of the world
nope.Quote from fseitun:
Capital gain tax is still the lowest of the European Union, 12.50%.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_gains_tax
check out Belgium and the Netherlands