What is happening to men?

Has anyone ever read a book "Brave New World" Fictional book, set in the future that describes the topics discussed here on this thread.
 
I went to a public elementary and they had this competitive reading system where say if you were in 3rd grade the avg reading book was orange level. However, if you worked hard and did well you could be bumped up to the next level, red. This encouraged me to do well not for the fact of wanting to learn but to be ahead of everyone else.

IMO girls as a group vs boys are much better students. Being a better student gets you into college, not intellect. Just because a student has a 4.0 doesn't mean they are super intelligent. It means they have a good work ethic, discipline. These qualities are fantastic for future employment but not necessarly incredible genius or original thought.

Some of the greatest contributors to society where bad students.

I have read some women say that men are not forceful enough anymore as in letting women run them over. There are a lot of powerful women out there but i do think inside at the primitive brain level want to have a man who is "manly"
 
We don't educate anymore...we are all about indoctrination. Just my opinion. HUGE differences between the two, women work better with indoctrination than men.
 
I enjoyed your post. I do worry that she is being driven too hard. Her backpack is a sack of bricks heavy from homework :(


Quote from Mr Pain:

Schools went through a transition and are totally built around the way girls are. Boys are at an incredible disadvantage in public schools. It is truly sickening. Still if you bring this up now, some woman will start shouting at you that boys have all the advantages in school. They fail to look at the figures for honors, graduation, dropout and college all of which heavily favor girls. The bottom line is it is socially acceptable to discriminate against boys. Boys learn differently than girls and it is a girl’s world in schools.

Its always fun seeing someone with an older daughter or daughters go through school and then have their son go through the exact same school with the same teachers. As one of my friends put it, he has had more trouble with the school for his one son than his did for all four of his older daughters.

If I were you, I’d be a bit worried about burn out but you know you child best. I grew up and still live in an over achieving and very competitive neighborhood. I can’t tell you how many of the stars just burnt out with drugs, alcohol or mental illness issues later.
 
Sorry, I missed this.

I have to agree with most of what you say. I went to ETHS, Evanston Township HS. ETHS was in the top high schools in the country scholastically even compared to private schools. In spite of that, it was never cool to be on the math team or chess team (I know I was in both).

American culture is driven by Hollywood. Or is Hollywood a reflection of what we are? I don't even know anymore. You cannot instill in a child what is cool or what is not. It is the nature vs nurture thing again.

The only way to make these things "cool" for kids is to talk to them about it in an interesting way. I play the following game with my daughter. It is called "Race to 20." You start at zero, and you then take turns adding either 1 or 2 to the last number. So if you go first, you can say 1 or you can say 2. Say you say 1. Then the next player takes a turn and he can say either 2 or 3 and so on until the person that says 20 wins. The reason I played this game with her is to teach her the concepts of induction and working backwards. I showed her that if you say 17, you cannot lose, because if the other person says 18 or 19, you can always name 20. So the goal is to name 17. But then, the same applies to 14. If you name 14, by the same argument that you used to name 17, you must win the game. This goes all the way down to the first number you must name to guarantee a win. This argument lies at the heart of mathematics.

I am now teaching her how to make markets in options, without her knowing it. She doesn't know that is what she is doing because we call the game PUCK (for Put, Underlying Call and Strike.) First I tell her the "rules" of the game,

U = C - P + K
C = U + P - K
P = C - U + K

otherwise known as Put-Call parity, the basis of all option trading (MMing). I tell her what the values of U and K is always. I then tell her what she did in the C, and she has to give me what she did in P, or vice versa, by using the "rules" above. We call this converting, which is what it is and it sets the stage for Reversal and Coversions, the heart and soul of all options trading.

She loooves playing these games. She has no idea she is learning some of the deepest concepts in mathematics and trading.

Quote from lolatency:

Nitro, it is not a raising children issue. In public school these days, there are special programs like "math for girls". Furthermore, the government structure really encourages girls and offers zero incentive for men.

Let me put it this way: In the 80s and early 90s, in school, it was "cool" for boys to compete and try to do math problems as fast as possible in class. By the time I hit high school, doing math was not cool. There was no competition. Competition was shunned, and girls took over. Girls don't give two shits about fighting to be the best. They want to be happy in a smurf village of no competition and everyone gets B+s in every class.

The more socialist school gets, the dumber guys get. Recall, even in Soviet Russia, they gave medals and much recognition to top performers and relied on in-school competition, not socialism. In the US, the socialism runs rampant and the men are becoming like those dejected monkeys you see in the zoo who have no interest in their caged life whatsoever.
 
Quote from stevegee58:

OK, so I was making a funny. The article was right, though.

When we were shopping around for colleges for my daughter a couple of years ago, the gender disparity was striking. Typically it's 60/40 F/M. Some it's 70/30. Where *are* the men going if not to college?

That's not a 1.5% spread, that's a whopping 10-20% spread.

I would have KILLED to go to a college with that ratio!
 
In April 15th ny Post there was an article (Christian Hoff Sommers) addressing this issue I thought was relevant on what is happening to men.

I can't link the article but if you follow the news on title 9 (AAUW) it's a "there ya go" diagnosis.
 
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