What If The Best Approach To Covid Was, "No Jabs For Anybody"?
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From the study in your article you moron.
Long term antibodies... means you were fucked up. When they fade you will probably get fucked again..
You don't want them... You wanted to beat the virus down with your T Cells and cross reactivity.
Before you got inflamed...
You are such a lying fucking moron...
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanmic/article/PIIS2666-5247(21)00025-2/fulltext
Persistence of neutralising antibodies was associated with disease severity and sustained level of pro-inflammatory cytokines, chemokines, and growth factors. By contrast, T-cell responses were similar among the different neutralising antibody dynamics groups. On the basis of the different decay dynamics, we established a prediction algorithm that revealed a wide range of neutralising antibody longevity, varying from around 40 days to many decades.
Long term antibodies... means you were fucked up. When they fade you will probably get fucked again..
You don't want them... You wanted to beat the virus down with your T Cells and cross reactivity.
Before you got inflamed...
You are such a lying fucking moron...
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanmic/article/PIIS2666-5247(21)00025-2/fulltext
Persistence of neutralising antibodies was associated with disease severity and sustained level of pro-inflammatory cytokines, chemokines, and growth factors. By contrast, T-cell responses were similar among the different neutralising antibody dynamics groups. On the basis of the different decay dynamics, we established a prediction algorithm that revealed a wide range of neutralising antibody longevity, varying from around 40 days to many decades.
Let's read the large bolded print... Nearly 40% of people don't have antibody protection which lasts 6 months to stop reinfection with Covid.
From the article:
From the analysis, the researchers created five categories based on how long antibodies lasted in an individual.
The first category, called the "negative" group, included the individuals who never developed detectable neutralizing antibodies. This group comprised 11.6% of participants.
Comprising 26.8% of patients, the second group is called the "rapid waning" group and showed varying early levels of antibodies that waned quickly. The third category comprised 29% of participants and was called the "slow waning" group as these patients tested positive for antibodies against SARS-CoV-2 for up to half a year.
The fourth group, called the "persistent" group, comprised 31.7% of patients and showed little change in their antibody levels up to 180 days. The last group, or the "delayed response" group, covered only 1.8% of subjects and included those who showed a marked rise in neutralizing antibodies during late convalescence.
Individual COVID-19 Antibodies Could Last Days To Decades, Scientists Find
https://www.ibtimes.com/individual-...uld-last-days-decades-scientists-find-3168292
here is the final word you fucking moron who has no understanding of science... and then you lie as if you know something. You are dangerous evil fucking fear filled liar.
you want to be in the negative / asymptomatic group... not the old comorbid long lasting antibody group...
you fucking idiot.
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanmic/article/PIIS2666-5247(21)00025-2/fulltext
" We observed a distinct stepwise progression from the negative group to the persistent group, whereby patients with persistent antibodies were older and had more comorbidities, including hypertension and diabetes mellitus."
The demographic differences we observed were probably related to increased disease severity, as patients in the persistent group had poorer clinical outcomes, including pneumonia, supplemental oxygen requirement, intensive care unit admission, and mechanical ventilation. Baseline symptoms and investigations reflected this increased disease severity, with a greater proportion of patients with fever, cough, dyspnoea, reduced lymphocyte count, increased C-reactive protein, and increased lactate dehydrogenase in the persistent group. We observed a greater proportion of asymptomatic individuals in the negative group (11 [58%] of 19 patients) compared with the persistent group (three [6%] of 52 patients).
you want to be in the negative / asymptomatic group... not the old comorbid long lasting antibody group...
you fucking idiot.
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanmic/article/PIIS2666-5247(21)00025-2/fulltext
" We observed a distinct stepwise progression from the negative group to the persistent group, whereby patients with persistent antibodies were older and had more comorbidities, including hypertension and diabetes mellitus."
The demographic differences we observed were probably related to increased disease severity, as patients in the persistent group had poorer clinical outcomes, including pneumonia, supplemental oxygen requirement, intensive care unit admission, and mechanical ventilation. Baseline symptoms and investigations reflected this increased disease severity, with a greater proportion of patients with fever, cough, dyspnoea, reduced lymphocyte count, increased C-reactive protein, and increased lactate dehydrogenase in the persistent group. We observed a greater proportion of asymptomatic individuals in the negative group (11 [58%] of 19 patients) compared with the persistent group (three [6%] of 52 patients).
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I think you don't understand how the immune system works. I don't blame you because most people don't.
Antibodies will fade away after a few months, whether through vaccination or infection, both will fade. However, T and B memory cells will be stored in the bone marrow and will be on standby to produce the antibody again once the virus is present in the body.
This explains why reinfection is possible but likely will not cause serious illness because the antibody would be quickly produced before it got worse.
It’s obvious you don’t know how antibody immunity works — and are totally misrepresenting how T-cells operate. Why don’t you contact a mainstream medical expert so they can straighten out your misrepresentations and misunderstandings.
Correct except for one caveat. There is no reinfection. Rather, you may be infected with a new strain.
There are many cases of documented reinfection with the same strain. As outlined many times previously in this forum.