What does Price Action Mean to you?

Quote from hcour:

Just to be clear, any implying was done by ES, not moi.

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Sorry, didn't spot that, thanks

But then if it is a "simple matter of division", what does this mean ?
 
in my experience "price action" has a negative flavor to it. in my experience those who say "o, i just watch price action" are not able to explain what it is exactly they're watching. sometimes some generalities will be said like higher highs, higher lows or whatever.
 
All this talk .. 8 pages of it... yet noone decided to post a chart example of "price action" in action.... OK well, then let me suggest that posting a chart would help a lot.
 
Quote from Lights:

price action is reactive form of trading. the basic physics behind it is that a particular price action tends to lead to another.. certain price action have a >50% expectancy and that is all most traders need to win in the long run.

markets are considered good when there is consistent realization of price pattern, like volume breakout and followthru. markets are considered bad when historically consistent patterns continue to fail in the short term.

but imo, price action is subtier to good fundamental analysis. price is confirmation of a fundamental expectation. when paul tudor jones says in 2002 that the oil industry is going to explode on the upside, that had absolutely nothing to do with price action. in fact, the nation-centric U.S. markets had little idea about globalization and demand until it was PRICED in, recently. very late. (edit) oh also there are many crappy fundamental analysts out there.

PTJ told you that his 2002 call on the oil industry had nothing to do with price action? What else did he tell you?
 
because price action would have showed he was wrong during that period. I never spoke to him, I am reflecting on his media comments. sorry you misunderstood.


Quote from Cluseau:

PTJ told you that his 2002 call on the oil industry had nothing to do with price action? What else did he tell you?
 
Although I can not be for sure what ES is talking but if it is, he is right.

Price in terms of Time is actually the only way to trade without having to use any indicator or support and resistance. (humble opinon)

I do this for confirmation as I need the crutch of indicators. Nevertheless the theory is that price moves at a certain pace within a certain time frame. ie on a one minuter chart the SP will move by a half point, on a five minute, by 1.2 points. etc. On the daily we call it the Average True Range, but then you have a certain look back period, etc.

They way it can tell you price moveing forward is just that... if the price move 2 points in 1 minute... you may have to think about a trade... if it moves 2 points in one day... well you may want to go take a nap.

To a certain extent it still comes down to personal prefrences and attaching some form of probablility to what sucess that trade could have if it goes in the direction of the price.

bottomline is you can only squeeze X amount of ticks, into a minute, and those ticks will move the price by a certain amount... if the number of ticks is high and the price moves much higher or lower than you may have a setup... that is the price action one must be able to read.

just a humble opinon.
 
As a result of this thread, I am starting to look at price for clues to determine future movements, especially at support and resistance levels. Thanks for all the great feedback.

Quote from Lights:

price action is reactive form of trading. the basic physics behind it is that a particular price action tends to lead to another.. certain price action have a >50% expectancy and that is all most traders need to win in the long run.

markets are considered good when there is consistent realization of price pattern, like volume breakout and followthru. markets are considered bad when historically consistent patterns continue to fail in the short term.

but imo, price action is subtier to good fundamental analysis. price is confirmation of a fundamental expectation. when paul tudor jones says in 2002 that the oil industry is going to explode on the upside, that had absolutely nothing to do with price action. in fact, the nation-centric U.S. markets had little idea about globalization and demand until it was PRICED in, recently. very late. (edit) oh also there are many crappy fundamental analysts out there.
 
The problem is when you look at historical price action, it is taken out of context. You can try to "lasso" the historical price patterns into some group of common standards that appear consistent, but discretionary traders will tell you that looking at price action without context is a fool’s errand.

You can look at price with respect to time. You can also look at volume with respect to time or price. They provide some clues to “events” that took place. But it’s helpful to know what these "events" were, against a backdrop of sentiment and “buzz” going on at the time.

But price action is the most important because it is the thing that determines your profit and loss.
 
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