We’re gonna build a wall And Mexico’s gonna cut through it

[Cuddles]

The majority of hard drug seizures occur at legal ports of entry because we patrol them the closest. We really have no idea how many drugs flow across the border at easier crossing points. Some places have nothing more than vehicle barriers in place, and it's incredibly easy to cross the border undetected.

Now that we have hard evidence that they're using areas other than legal ports of entry to get their drugs across, it gives more credence to the theory that we need a more secure barrier in place to slow them down. Obviously we need something better than what's being installed. It's embarrassing to think they're spending billions on a wall that can easily be cut down with a power saw.

I get your point, but the "evidence" BP had based on numbers points to legal points of entry, so it makes sense to direct the budget where the numbers show the contraband is crossing. We've always had holes in the fence where drugs go, but that is not "hard evidence" that serious volume is crossing this way.

With the budget going to the wall, we could've ordered a study into how porous to drugs our border really is for instance, then based on actual hard evidence, act accordingly.

The bollard fence is anything but embarrassing (from a structural standpoint, never mind the optics). What's embarrassing is to think someone couldn't cut through it. If someone's building the damn thing, than obviously someone is going to know how to cut through it.

Now they're throwing vibration sensors. Guess what? If I'm a trafficker, I'm just gonna strap a reciprocating saw to the wall and use it as a decoy to focus BP on a spot while I cross elsewhere.

 

[Bugenhagen]

Reminded me:

I love the cop "What do you guys want?"

Mind you probably smuggling weed FROM the US to Mexico now like the guns.

 

[Bugenhagen]

You don't need drugs mind you, reading Trump's meanderings will trip you out.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing...esident-trump-visit-border-wall-san-diego-ca/

"Now, the wall still, obviously, has a ways to go, but we’re building it at a breakneck speed. I wanted them to show you the interior of parts of the wall and what’s inside of each individual slat. And you’ll see it’s a combination of steel, concrete, and — as one of the folks just said — it really is virtually impenetrable. Any walls that were put up would get knocked down very quickly, very easily. This wall is not something that can be really knocked down. I guess anything can, but this is very tough.

And it goes down six feet. It’s three and four feet wide. The concrete — you see it right here; it’s exposed. And I might ask General Semonite to say a few words about it.

And I’d like to bring them right up — look at the inner tube — to see what happens. Because after the wall is up, we pour concrete, and concrete goes into the tube. And in addition to that, we have rebar. So if you think you’re going to cut it with a blowtorch, that doesn’t work because you hit concrete. And then if you think you’re going to go through the concrete, that doesn’t work because we have very powerful rebar inside.

So it’s a very powerful, very powerful wall — the likes of which, probably, to this extent, has not been built before.

THE PRESIDENT: And the reason we pour the concrete afterwards is because it’s too heavy to lift when the concrete is poured in. So we put it up and we pour the concrete. A lot of people don’t see that. But we pour the concrete afterwards.

So you have the rebar, you have the steel, and then you have concrete. And it’s hardened concrete. Very powerful concrete. What is that — 4,000 pounds or 5,000-pound concrete?

GENERAL SEMONITE: That would be 5,000, sir.

THE PRESIDENT: That’s a very strong — that’s a very powerful concrete. And a lot of technological advances have been made with concrete. It sounds pretty simple, but it’s not. It’s a very powerful concrete.

So you have the rebar, you have the outer crust, and you have the inside is concrete. And it’s pretty amazing. And, again, the concrete is poured after it’s up. They pour it through funnels and cover much of the territory of the bollard.

THE PRESIDENT: This is your maximum that you can do. And one thing we haven’t mentioned is technology. They’re wired so that we will know if somebody is trying to break through. And you may want to discuss that a little bit, General.

GENERAL SEMONITE: Sir, there could be some merit in not discussing that.

THE PRESIDENT: Okay. (Laughter.) I like that. That was a great answer. I’ll just tell you they’re wired, okay? They’re wired. They’re, technologically, very advanced. All set up for cameras any place we want. We have all of the — everything we need. But it’s all set up for cameras, for anything. And you’ve been hearing “drone technology” — they’re all wired out for drone technology. Anything you want, we have.

And, frankly, this is the right time to do it. Because to do it later, after it’s built is very expensive. This way, it’s mostly just adding wire.
"

 

[PintoFire]

That picture is not 100% accurate. There are rolls and rolls of HEAVY razor wire above the long stretches of wall currently in place. I have seen it. You cant just toss a ladder over the top of the wall and simply climb right over. The picture is wrong and deceitful. You can try to do what they're showing but you'll tear yourself to shreds and bleed to death in the desert. If you're lucky enough to somehow make it through, you'll need evade the border patrol vehicles including blackhawk helicopters. Also keep in mind that whatever technology is used to track down terrorists in the middle east is also used to monitor the border. A lot of money has been invested in monitoring and surveillance. Which can be a good and a bad thing depending on how you look at it.

 

[Cuddles]

That picture is not 100% accurate. There are rolls and rolls of HEAVY razor wire above the long stretches of wall currently in place. I have seen it. You cant just toss a ladder over the top of the wall and simply climb right over. The picture is wrong and deceitful. You can try to do what they're showing but you'll tear yourself to shreds and bleed to death in the desert. If you're lucky enough to somehow make it through, you'll need evade the border patrol vehicles including blackhawk helicopters. Also keep in mind that whatever technology is used to track down terrorists in the middle east is also used to monitor the border. A lot of money has been invested in monitoring and surveillance. Which can be a good and a bad thing depending on how you look at it.

photoshop pictures from months ago don't count. Also, barb wire cutters, how do they work?
https://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-border-concertina-wire-theft-20190318-story.html
beautifully decorated wall

 

[Bugenhagen]

That picture is not 100% accurate. There are rolls and rolls of HEAVY razor wire above the long stretches of wall currently in place. I have seen it. You cant just toss a ladder over the top of the wall and simply climb right over. The picture is wrong and is deceitful. You can try to do what they're showing but you'll tear yourself to shreds and bleed to death in the desert. If you're lucky enough to somehow make it through, you'll need evade the border patrol vehicles including blackhawk helicopters. Also keep in mind that whatever technology is used to track down terrorists in the middle east is also used to monitor the border. A lot of money has been invested in monitoring and surveillance.

And.. nobody could just push PVC pipe along the ground and pump a paste through. What a relief.

The barb would shield you to cameras while you work, good stuff.

A lot of money is being spent alright, AKA socialism for defence firms again.

 

[PintoFire]

photoshop pictures from months ago don't count. Also, barb wire cutters, how do they work?

I've seen it and been there. Portions of the wall have been in place for a long time. This wasn't solely built by the Trump administration. I have personally seen all of this.

 

[TommyR]

zero drugs are pouring in through new wall according to many reports

 

[Cuddles]

zero drugs are pouring in through new wall according to many reports

fox or breitbart?

 

[PintoFire]

I'd like to add that those photos aren't photoshopped, thats literally how it looks in certain areas. Even on the Mexico side areas look like that. I feel bad for the majority of hispanic people because many are hardworking family oriented people. A lot of people have moved to escape the crime and violence. Anyone that's been there can probably attest that the majority are just trying to live normal lives.