When you give lazy bums all these freebies, be it monies, healthcare, pensions, social security, etc. Why the hell would they bother to work? That is the way in a communist country. Ideally, in a communist state, everyone is supposedly, equal. So, everyone is equally, miserable! The industrious ones figure why work when the lazy ones get the same benefits? Truth be told, there is no such thing! Those championing socialism and communism in the US are for it provided they do not have to pay for it and they are part of the ruling class! Did you ever see a poor communist or socialist at the top levels of power? Remember Hugo Chavez? Kim Jon Un? His wife wears the latest designer clothes. Want to bet he is filthy rich? How about Xi Jinping? You think he is poor? What about the leaders of other socialist countries in Europe? Are any of them poor? What about Bernie Sanders? His supporters claim he is poor yet, now he has 3 houses? How many millions in net worth? He was recently, spotted driving a sports car worth atleast $200,000! Michael Moore is against capitalism yet, he is a multi-millionaire several times over! He has a mansion mind you! What happened to the capitalism is evil mantra? Hypocrisy! Nothing more! The socialists and communists believe their BS as much as they love to eat cow dung! Capitalism works which is why China (communist) and Russia (Socialist) have adopted the capitalist economic system! You work hard and start a business and you will probably, become rich! What is not mentioned by the liberal socialists and communists is the success stories because then, they cannot bash and attack capitalism!
Went To The Optics Shop... Got PISSED OFF!
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When you give lazy bums all these freebies, be it monies, healthcare, pensions, social security, etc. Why the hell would they bother to work? That is the way in a communist country. Ideally, in a communist state, everyone is supposedly, equal. So, everyone is equally, miserable! The industrious ones figure why work when the lazy ones get the same benefits? Truth be told, there is no such thing! Those championing socialism and communism in the US are for it provided they do not have to pay for it and they are part of the ruling class! Did you ever see a poor communist or socialist at the top levels of power? Remember Hugo Chavez? Kim Jon Un? His wife wears the latest designer clothes. Want to bet he is filthy rich? How about Xi Jinping? You think he is poor? What about the leaders of other socialist countries in Europe? Are any of them poor? What about Bernie Sanders? His supporters claim he is poor yet, now he has 3 houses? How many millions in net worth? He was recently, spotted driving a sports car worth atleast $200,000! Michael Moore is against capitalism yet, he is a multi-millionaire several times over! He has a mansion mind you! What happened to the capitalism is evil mantra? Hypocrisy! Nothing more! The socialists and communists believe their BS as much as they love to eat cow dung! Capitalism works which is why China (communist) and Russia (Socialist) have adopted the capitalist economic system! You work hard and start a business and you will probably, become rich! What is not mentioned by the liberal socialists and communists is the success stories because then, they cannot bash and attack capitalism!
which is why they left wont address the illogical structure and perverse incentives we have built into our social safety net.
Which is also why they never go more than one post deep with facts. If they were to analyse what is going on with facts they would realize the end result of what they are pushing for is a failed crony state.
Its just easier to call people trumpers and say trump is evil.
(they don't even acknowledge that hillary was more corrupt... Imagine if trump had bleeched hard drives which were under supoena or had his lover (who is related to leaders in the muslim brotherhood) taking secure info off a server and emailing to her husband's computer.)
If you can't look at our govt and realize that most of the left and the establish right are corrupt sobs... you are not seeing straight. there are very few exceptions in washington d.c. because if they don't vote with the leadership they get denied campaign funds.
Which is also why they never go more than one post deep with facts. If they were to analyse what is going on with facts they would realize the end result of what they are pushing for is a failed crony state.
Its just easier to call people trumpers and say trump is evil.
(they don't even acknowledge that hillary was more corrupt... Imagine if trump had bleeched hard drives which were under supoena or had his lover (who is related to leaders in the muslim brotherhood) taking secure info off a server and emailing to her husband's computer.)
If you can't look at our govt and realize that most of the left and the establish right are corrupt sobs... you are not seeing straight. there are very few exceptions in washington d.c. because if they don't vote with the leadership they get denied campaign funds.
That is a cogent statement. However, if costs were brought down then we would not need universal healthcare.
See, it’s the patchwork system of carriers and providers that create high prices. You’ve taken a position that will never be realized.
brah...
I am not here defending Trump.
When they raided his lawyer's office... I wrote the odds are they will find something to take him down. However, I also doubt he personally illegally (please note.. the "illegally") colluded with russia...we would know by now if he had.
My concern is the left and its voters will happily turn us into a larger proto venezuela as long as the cronies give them some ice cream for a while.
Big socialism has already failed so many times... with a few exceptions.
You seem smart enough to think in systems why do you think big govt big socialism will work here in america.
Do you see yourself as a party member getting all the benes?
I am not here defending Trump.
When they raided his lawyer's office... I wrote the odds are they will find something to take him down. However, I also doubt he personally illegally (please note.. the "illegally") colluded with russia...we would know by now if he had.
My concern is the left and its voters will happily turn us into a larger proto venezuela as long as the cronies give them some ice cream for a while.
Big socialism has already failed so many times... with a few exceptions.
You seem smart enough to think in systems why do you think big govt big socialism will work here in america.
Do you see yourself as a party member getting all the benes?
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'Never' sounds quite self-defeating...
I indulge in the fact that Trump was 'never' going to be president either. Just because something is broken does not mean it has to remain broken forever. If costs are brought down, you can still have adequate universal healthcare. From my understanding, Singapore's model seems to be the best in the world, but you be the judge.
https://qz.com/1121194/the-3-factors-that-make-singapores-health-system-the-envy-of-the-west/
What I know is that everyone has a plan to be a Republican/small govt until they get hit in the face. IOW, when your rust-belt contemporaries lose their job they go on the dole. We could go into Red States, but you know it to be true. The fact remains that the VAST majority of all SS recipients take more than they contribute. So donate your SS... burn the check.
I don't advocate socialism. Never have. My granddad in Sweden owned a textile mill and stated that he would hire 100 workers when he needed 50 because only 50 would show up for work.
Scat doesn't know what coverage those people have.
I've never seen a "Medicaid accepted" sign in any optician I've been to. Perhaps he shouldn't shop in the ghetto.
So the guy goes off the rails for what...?
I don't advocate socialism. Never have. My granddad in Sweden owned a textile mill and stated that he would hire 100 workers when he needed 50 because only 50 would show up for work.
Scat doesn't know what coverage those people have.
I've never seen a "Medicaid accepted" sign in any optician I've been to. Perhaps he shouldn't shop in the ghetto.
So the guy goes off the rails for what...?
Read it again. I am a conservative who believes in capitalism. I never said big government socialism works. Socialism is huge failure in multiple countries! Venezuela, Cuba, North Korea, Greece, Portugal, Ireland. The last 3 bailed out by Germany no less. What I said was those championing socialism in the US like Bernie Sanders are for socialism because they believe they will be the leaders in a Socialist State in the US. If they were average joes without power and poor, in a socialist state in the US, they would change their tune as Socialism being oppressive! That is the liberal hypocrisy! The reason they champion socialism is because they see themselves benefiting from a Socialist State as among its leaders! They see themselves as the filthy rich elites in a Socialist State. Even now, Bernie Sanders has gotten filthy rich yet, he pretends he is for the poor masses who love his socialism?
You go ahead and indulge away. I’m not a fan of Singapore’s system but probably because I’m so used to not shopping healthcarebprices. I don’t know if it is something I would want.