no kidding, at some point we as country decided it would be in all our best interest if a kid could get at least a basic education if not a good one even if his parents didn't have the wherewithal or the will to pay for it.
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Well piezoe
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Quote from kid.fx.cross:
One of my favorite George Soros quotes is, "If you believe government is bad, you will create a bad government."
Think about your kid. If you constantly tell him, "You are no good, you will never be good." How do you think he will turn out?
That's also one of my favorite quotes,because it is both non-obvious and true. It is an example of what Soros calls reflexivity. Soros is certainly among our most public intellectuals, and he has used his money to foster open societies, and individual freedom in many countries with oppressive governments. He is one of my personal heroes, and a shrewd investor as well.
kid, Soros has written widely on social policy and governance. Sadly the U.S. government has largely ignored him. Here is his view re the "war on drugs"... What an Intellect!
The war on drugs cannot succeed because it violates the most elementary laws of economics -- ones that were not discredited by the crash of 2008.<sup>*</sup> Interdicting supply when demand is inelastic -- and what could be more inelastic than addiction? -- merely serves to increase prices and profit margins. High prices stimulate supply, and wide profit margins encourage drug pushing that generates addiction and inelastic demand. The tougher law enforcement, the tougher the people attracted into the business. That is the trap in which we are currently caught. Fortunately attitudes in the u.S. are beginning to change. people who smoked pot and perhaps tried more serious drugs as children are becoming parents, and the costs and injustices of incarceration are beginning to sink in. The process is likely to accelerate under the impetus of the impending squeeze on State finances. I see better prospects for radical reform than at any time since I became involved in drug policy. Unfortunately it may not come soon enough to save the situation in Afghanistan.
Soros wrote the above sometime before 2010. It shows tremendous foresight, given subsequent events.
Soros disagreed passionately with Hank Paulson's bailout of the banks by taking toxic assets off their books using Tarp. Soros thought, in his words, "it would be much better to put the money where the hole was and replenish the equity of banks." He had many discussions with Larry Summers, but he said Obama largely ignored him. He also wrote a long series of articles in the Financial times regarding among other thing, fundamental mortgage reform. Again, ignored by the administration. Too bad, I wish he, and not Paulson, had been Treasury Secretary. Had Soros been Secretary it's likely he would have seen the crisis coming and done something to head it off. He would make an outstanding Fed Chairman, or Treasury Secretary.
The war on drugs cannot succeed because it violates the most elementary laws of economics -- ones that were not discredited by the crash of 2008.<sup>*</sup> Interdicting supply when demand is inelastic -- and what could be more inelastic than addiction? -- merely serves to increase prices and profit margins. High prices stimulate supply, and wide profit margins encourage drug pushing that generates addiction and inelastic demand. The tougher law enforcement, the tougher the people attracted into the business. That is the trap in which we are currently caught. Fortunately attitudes in the u.S. are beginning to change. people who smoked pot and perhaps tried more serious drugs as children are becoming parents, and the costs and injustices of incarceration are beginning to sink in. The process is likely to accelerate under the impetus of the impending squeeze on State finances. I see better prospects for radical reform than at any time since I became involved in drug policy. Unfortunately it may not come soon enough to save the situation in Afghanistan.
Soros wrote the above sometime before 2010. It shows tremendous foresight, given subsequent events.
Soros disagreed passionately with Hank Paulson's bailout of the banks by taking toxic assets off their books using Tarp. Soros thought, in his words, "it would be much better to put the money where the hole was and replenish the equity of banks." He had many discussions with Larry Summers, but he said Obama largely ignored him. He also wrote a long series of articles in the Financial times regarding among other thing, fundamental mortgage reform. Again, ignored by the administration. Too bad, I wish he, and not Paulson, had been Treasury Secretary. Had Soros been Secretary it's likely he would have seen the crisis coming and done something to head it off. He would make an outstanding Fed Chairman, or Treasury Secretary.
Quote from kid.fx.cross:
and furthermore, if doctors decide they don't want to become government employees, and young kids decide they don't want to pursue a career in medicine, what will the government do to protect my right to health care?
Institute a draft for qualified young people?
I wouldn't waste too much time worrying about this. If you were an M.D. and you did not like practicing in the U.S., where would you go? England? Canada? Make half as much and work in a single payer system? I don't think you'll see many MD's leaving. As it is there are M.D.'s in other countries that would like to move to the U.S. There are more qualified medical school applicants then are admitted. Production and influx are well under control. Don't forget its a cartel, not a free market.
I hear ya, my point was, how can you consider it a "right" when it depends on the free will of those who administer it?Quote from piezoe:
I wouldn't waste too much time worrying about this. If you were an M.D. and you did not like practicing in the U.S., where would you go? England? Canada? Make half as much and work in a single payer system? I don't think you'll see many MD's leaving. As it is there are M.D.'s in other countries that would like to move to the U.S. There are more qualified medical school applicants then are admitted. Production and influx are well under control. Don't forget its a cartel, not a free market.
I'll let that go since you claim there is an imbalance on the demand supply side.
explain more (and keep in mind I am very simple minded) what you mean when you say, "It's a cartel, not a free market."
I am a hardcore, rightwing, conservative, libertarianQuote from Tsing Tao:
Translation: You seem to be one of the few who agrees with my viewpoint.
people fear what they don't understand
and what they fear they hate
you can just see it on this site
they hate him so much they start making fun of his name and start calling him "Pie hole"
We just both happen to have an affinity for George Soros. He, because he has a vision of how the world should be. Me, because he made a billion dollars breaking the Bank of England.
The USA healthcare issue is an interesting one.
Most of us have progressed at least to the point where we believe it is in our best interest for most of our citizens to be healthy.
But far be it from me to argue, "If you're not healthy enough to make it in the USA, just die."
Quote from kid.fx.cross:
Most of us have progressed at least to the point where we believe it is in our best interest for most of our citizens to be healthy.
Yet we have 2/3 of this country overweight or obese. And many of those people continue to have no interest in their own health. Walk though a mall and look at all the people with XXL or XXXL tee shirts on. Go to a chain restaurant and observe the majority of those eating there. Sadly, we're a nation of slobs.
And when we look at Odumbocare we see no penalty for those people who have chosen to be fat/obese through unhealthy eating, lack of exercise, excessive use of alcohol or drugs, smokers, etc. They pay the same premiums as their peers who eat healthy and work out, people who take responsibility for their own well being.
And now, the healthy are expected to subsidize the fat/obese group, many of whom have pre-existing conditions brought on by their own choices. Anyone unfortunate to have been born with some ailment or who contracted something like cancer has faced challenges over the years as far as insurance if they had no coverage through work.
And what if we look at auto insurance .... if I exhibit poor choices and have tickets, accidents I pay significantly higher premiums that a safe driver. Why is that not reflected in health insurance?
There is nothing "affordable" about ACA to those who have paid for their own insurance over the years, who eat healthy and exercise. Those of us in that group, who chose to have insurance all these years, and paid for it out of our own pockets, are getting financially raped with this nonsense.
People in this country need to take responsibility for their own health .. and those who choose not to .. they should be penalized for their irresponsible choices IMO.