‘We are sorry’: Hillsong apologises for Brian Houston conduct breach

[stu]

The Bible was given to us by GOD so that we can know Him.

But how do you KNOW that?

Asking other people to answer how they know when you have no coherent answer but only a blind unthinking religious belief is at best disingenuous of you.

Christian doctrine/dogma, has it that father, son and holy ghost are all the same entity.
Might I suggest to keep up with the times, surely 'GOD' is now going to prefer being recognized by the pronoun They and not Him.

 

[studentofthemarkets]

But there is this, one can go to church until the cows come home, and still be an asshole of a person.
Never mind how genuine a christian or not.
I can recall as a kid, no sooner leaving a Sunday service then I'd get a bashing from my parents.

I remember another church guy, had his dog tied up at the clothesline and beating his dog ruthelessly. There's plenty more stories, not gonna go down that track though as its ugly.

But it seems, the more brainwashing, the worse the outcome.

Yes, if people are brainwashed, I think I can see that they would have a worse outcome. I've also known some very angry people who were churchgoers and they were also very vocal and opinionated about their beliefs. Come to think of it though, I can't remember anyone being truly cruel, like beating a dog, that I've know that seemed like a faithful Christian. Could be I just don't hang around with people like that, but I'm sure they probably exist in churches and in social groups and every part of society.

HOWEVER, since most Christians aren't brainwashed, but believers of truth and having fellowship with God, they generally have a lot of happiness from their relationship with God and that filters over into other areas of life, like being kind to their kids and animals. I've personally had a lot of kindness shown to me from people in various churches. There are definitely some who are not kind though. I would say this tends to be true everywhere, there are kind people and unkind people outside of churches too. And I don't generally lump people into groups like good and bad. We are what we are. I know someone (not a believer) who has done some criminal deeds in the past and I suspect the present too but he also has some good qualities. I won't trust him around my things, since he has a history of theft. Just trying to make the point that good and bad qualities vary in each person. We all need JESUS!

Why am I on Elite Trader during the premarket? Just another emotionally based decision instead of sticking to rules. I really need to work on being more disciplined in life.

 

[themickey]

HOWEVER, since most Christians aren't brainwashed, but believers of truth and having fellowship with God, they generally have a lot of happiness from their relationship with God

You and I live in two different universes.

 

[studentofthemarkets]

You and I live in two different universes.

Just thought I'd share with you,@themickey, since we've discussed answers to prayer before, that I just had an answer to prayer. At least I think it was. It is hard to know sometimes. I needed a livescan form for my church, which I'd been given over the summer and just hadn't gotten it done, and I couldn't find it. I checked all the normal places I would keep paper work and it wasn't there. So I prayed and asked God to please help me find it because I'd rather not wait to pick up the form again from church, especially because I have to get livescanned for something else today, so easier to get them both done together.

The very next second, after I asked God if He would help me, I thought I should check my Bible, and sure enough, it was there in a pocket I'd forgotten about.

Now, I can't prove this was a direct intervention by God and I'm not trying to prove it. But I will say that things like that happen often, when I have a need (not a want).

I have been thinking about praying more about my trading. It's hard for me to pray about it because I think it's wrong to think of God as being like a genie, where I just get things from Him that I want. However, I really lack self-control when trading and maybe that is something God would be willing to help me with. I will have to pray and find out. You know what they say: be careful of asking for patience because you might not like the trials that will come to work patience in your life. lol. Not sure I want to find out what produces self-control.

I wonder, where does self-control come from?

 

[themickey]

I wonder, where does self-control come from?

Maybe it comes from being happy to live with pain and going without.

 

[themickey]

You do know, for thousands of years people of every nationality and religion have struggled to survive in harsh conditions, do you think they have not prayed and had their requests fulfilled.
Christian like to think they are special, maybe to a degree they are as the christian West is indeed prosperous, but many in the West are agnostic or athiest as well, we are not all believers. Again I reckon, christianity is good for young people to learn morals.
But back to prayers, many religions pray, they wouldn't do it if they didn't believe it works.

I'm happy you pray and it works (some of the time).

 

[themickey]

Traders believe in all sorts of TA indicators. Do they work? Some of the time.
Me thinks often randomly, coincidence, luck, fluke, and sometimes they get it right.

 

[studentofthemarkets]

I'm happy you pray and it works (some of the time).

Thanks!

You once said you had some answers to prayer too.....

 

[studentofthemarkets]

You do know, for thousands of years people of every nationality and religion have struggled to survive in harsh conditions, do you think they have not prayed and had their requests fulfilled.
Christian like to think they are special, maybe to a degree they are as the christian West is indeed prosperous, but many in the West are agnostic or athiest as well, we are not all believers. Again I reckon, christianity is good for young people to learn morals.
But back to prayers, many religions pray, they wouldn't do it if they didn't believe it works.

I'm happy you pray and it works (some of the time).

So, when you have personally experienced answers to your prayers, or seen answers to others' prayers, was that when you, and they, were praying to the God of the Bible, like way back when you believed in Him?

What about since that time? Are you still getting answers to your prayers sometimes when you are praying to ????? I don't know how you describe your god....is it something like "the unknown God" that you address your prayers to? Are you getting the same rate of answered prayers?

I am curious, but not trying to pry, so don't answer unless you want to.

 

[studentofthemarkets]

Traders believe in all sorts of TA indicators. Do they work? Some of the time.
Me thinks often randomly, coincidence, luck, fluke, and sometimes they get it right.

The way I understand it is that technical analysis is all based on trying to find repeating patterns. If you can find something that most of the time works, then trading it should work most of the time. Nobody can really predict the future, but knowing repeating patterns that happened in the past can help to find those patterns in the future. Repetition in a regularly occurring manner is the best!