Want opinion on collective2

do inform me if i can place calls on WTI oil calendar spreads and brent-wti spread
if so how? (isnt included in your symbol list)

I would also like to know of better methods to vet performance.
 
Quote from drownpruf:

I made ~$20k from my C2 subs over three years or so. Granted, I had the top performing system on C2 over that period (1,300% return). Mine was a option-system that required spreads and combos. I never used their marketing capabilities as I never intended to market it. You will do better on C2 subs with a futures or equities system that is marketed, provided that your performance is good on a risk-adjusted basis.

I opened the system on a bet. FWIW, I made far more on the wager than I did on the C2 subs. If you're looking for funding it may provide a nominal stake in a year or two. There are much better methods by which to vet your performance.
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how much did you charge and what was your sharpe ratio?
 
Quote from failed_trad3r:

how much did you charge and what was your sharpe ratio?
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My Sharpe was around 2, but it would've been higher but each leg was stressed individually, not the whole. I ran each position in a production account as well and did better, as the haircut was lower and I used limit orders. I was forced to use market orders on C2 (100% marketable rating).

IIRC it was $50 per trade.

Re: vetting. Form a corp and use a production account and get 3-5 years of performance. Shop that around to friends and relatives and manage less than fifteen accounts professionally. Eventually you'll attract more interest than is likely scalable.
 
will venture to guess the reason for live money is because of the difference in decision making quality between real and paper trade.

kinda like riding a bike without training wheels.

I notice several system vendors restart systems, myself included.

The quality I observe is that persistence contributes to ultimate system success.
 
Quote from failed_trad3r:

Why do nobody on collective2 except a few have production accounts? TOS certification
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Because i think you have to pay to set it up, giving cost increase.
 
Quote from gkishot:

Because i think you have to pay to set it up, giving cost increase.
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one challenge i have with linking the system to a live account is because the choice of available brokers is not in alignment with my production accounts.

nevertheless, my system is not ready for live execution...will cross that bridge when and if i get there.

i think charging the subscriber $49 a week only if profitable fits best with my process and system when and if it goes live.
 
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