Victor Niederhoffer--- Rare Silver Auction Catalog

[Pekelo]

Quote from Rearden Metal:

I have personally sat shoeless in Vic's trading room, witnessing first hand as VN took multiple trades that were NOT put sales.

My understanding is that he was/is involved with more than just one fund not just Matador and I bet he also had/has a personal account....

 

[Thunderdog]

Quote from Red_Ink_inc:

Does anyone apart from me find it humorous that someone using the name "Icarus" has shown up here in support of Mr. Niederhoffer?

Good observation. It's important to get sufficient irony in our diet.

 

[atticus]

Quote from marketsurfer:

you mean this guy?

lol, one of my favorites, but a fairly poor repro, Surf.

 

[Icarus5]

Quote from Red_Ink_inc:

Does anyone apart from me find it humorous that someone using the name "Icarus" has shown up here in support of Mr. Niederhoffer?

LOL, I'm glad you guys are having a chuckle at my expense (beautiful picture Surf).

I'm not going to criticize the guy until I've walked a mile or two ...

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[Icarus5]

Perhaps this performance is more acceptable (taken from the Casting Call for Firm Documentary thread)

Quote from zdreg:

2002- Toby Crabel, with nearly 300 different systems in production, finishes 10 years without a single losing year, with an 11% average annual return, with a maximum drawdown of 4.24% over the period, and with well over a billion dollars under management charging a 3% management fee.

not wishing to get an argument with makloda but is this considered to be an acceptable return. sounds barely acceptable in a nontaxable account and unacceptable return in a taxable account compared to a buy and hold account.

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[Thunderdog]

Quote from Icarus5:

Just looking for the truth.

I see that I typed Achielle's Hell, I obviously meant Achilles' Heel, but I'll let that stand ... as it must be hell to be a genius, have your fund(s) go under (twice), have to liquidate your assets, and have people think you're a fool (no smily face, I'm serious).

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And how is a genius who lets his funds go under twice any better than a fool?

VN has a penchant for using the word "erudite" at every opportunity, as did marketsurfer until recently. I just happened to come across something that playwright Jean Baptiste Moliere wrote, and I welcome your comments:

"An erudite fool is a greater fool than an ignorant fool."

 

[marketsurfer]

Quote from Icarus5:

Perhaps this performance is more acceptable (taken from the Casting Call for Firm Documentary thread)



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thanks. as you know, crabel worked in VN's office and speaks highly of him. another example of the massive postive influence VN has on others.

regards,

surf

 

[marketsurfer]

Quote from atticus:

<b>lol, one of my favorites, but a fairly poor, Surf.</b>





i believe the original is worth more than both our homes together.

that has been on the wall for over a year,one of my favorites also, i rotate depending on the mood....

surf

 

[atticus]

Quote from marketsurfer:

Quote from atticus:

<b>lol, one of my favorites, but a fairly poor, Surf.</b>





i believe the original is worth more than both our homes together.

that has been on the wall for over a year,one of my favorites also, i rotate depending on the mood....

surf

Yeah, I am sure. Chagall's "Village" from 1911 is my favorite.

 

[Icarus5]

Quote from Thunderdog:

And how is a genius who lets his funds go under twice any better than a fool?

VN has a penchant for using the word "erudite" at every opportunity, as did marketsurfer until recently. I just happened to come across something that playwright Jean Baptiste Moliere wrote, and I welcome your comments:

"An erudite fool is a greater fool than an ignorant fool."

Honestly?

He had 12 years of truly outstanding performance in which he led the pack in terms of hedge fund performance.

I think he got overconfident, and this led to his fall (yes, there is irony in someone with my alias definding him ) ... and once he crossed that threshold, he couldn't go back to his previous iron man performance level.

That doesn't make him a fool, it makes him human.

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