We already are and have been for the last at least 50 years. Where have you been for the last 50 years? In a coma?
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US's birth rate felt and dodo birds in bow ties thinks immigration is the solution
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We already are and have been for the last at least 50 years. Where have you been for the last 50 years? In a coma?
So what exactly are you complaining about?We already are and have been for the last however many years. Where have you been for the last 50 years? In a coma?
The irony of your statement is lost on you.
Anyway it's beyond you. I get it.
So what exactly are you complaining about?
I am not complaining I am just saying we have enough immigration and don't need anymore especially with all the cost associated with it. The economists who advocate for more immigration in the article are out to lunch. Ok you REALLY need to learn to read before you troll.
What costs? I don't really see a problem with increasing immigration. In fact, tax revenues from new immigrants can probably be put to good use in providing services and program from existing citizens.I am not complaining I am just saying we have enough immigration and don't need anymore especially with all the cost associated with it. The economists who advocate for more immigration in the article are out to lunch. Ok you REALLY need to learn to read before you troll.
Could you post a link to that article?Many would like to stay and build a life here.View attachment 263819
The demographics behind those chart bars will be interesting.
Where has been the source for these effective people in the past?
How much drift occured over time concerning source locations by decade?
What does that chart look like when stated by percent of total incoming from each source location? eg if a country was the source of 3 million incoming resulting in 5 Companies while another country sent 300,000 resulting in 5 companies, then by percent they are not even close.
Where have the kingpins of effective research, development, production come from? eg. Deutschers were some bright organic chemists but I don't know of any Entertainment empires that they started. eg. Tesla gets bonus points - considering electrical system RnD is in a class by itself as is nuclear energy for better or for worse. Westinghouse and Morgan are in a class by themselves for better or for worse.
I asked a coworker why the Chinese people at the company were consistently a cut above in the smarts department. She said that when Mao came to power professors were targeted for bad juju, so they beat feet and got the hell outta dodge any which way they could. Many ended up in USA, had kids and passed on the habits and genes of an educated parent or two who were hella grateful to get to somewhere with freedom and fewer than a billion or so people hanging out in the vicinity.
In other words, the ones I had been around were not typical of the general population they came from, but instead were as a group selected out by the fact that they were largely the children and grandchildren of Chinese professors and upper crust folks.
Sounds reasonable to me. If the USA started shipping all the math, engineering, physics, chemistry, professors and families to the work farm to see how long it would take to work / starve them to death, and after a couple hundred the other hundred thousand said screw this and headed for, well, where Would they go, what's left? Antarctica, then Antartica would have a bunch of smart mofos that as a group would put to shame the average capability of the general network television audience in the USA. But the Antarcticans would think Dayam them Americans sure are bright.
I'm thinking she may have had something there with that explanation. Hand me that remote, would ya Doris?
Could you post a link to that article?
The demographics behind those chart bars will be interesting.
Where has been the source for these effective people in the past?
How much drift occured over time concerning source locations by decade?
http://startupsusa.org/fortune500/
Go all the way to the very bottom of the page, and right above "Methodology" there's a link with the actual list, including countries of origin.
First ten on the list: Syria (Steve Jobs' dad), Scotland, Ireland, France, Cuba (Jeff Bezos' stepdad - his biological father was of Danish descent), England, Scotland, Canada, Sweden, Germany.
The lesson seems to be that we should ban immigration from everywhere but Europe, but I'd be open to handing out 10,000 green cards a year to the rank-ordered top scorers on some kind of cognitive test.
Why ban any source? By the same token why allow unchecked packing of the aquarium?http://startupsusa.org/fortune500/
Go all the way to the very bottom of the page, and right above "Methodology" there's a link with the actual list, including countries of origin.
First ten on the list: Syria (Steve Jobs' dad), Scotland, Ireland, France, Cuba (Jeff Bezos' stepdad - his biological father was of Danish descent), England, Scotland, Canada, Sweden, Germany.
The lesson seems to be that we should ban immigration from everywhere but Europe, but I'd be open to handing out 10,000 green cards a year to the rank-ordered top scorers on some kind of cognitive test.
There are natural limits to the carrying capacity of any system.
https://www.elitetrader.com/et/thre...r-to-bring-in-annually-to-the-usa-why.359391/What's a Good Number of Undocumented Immigrants to Bring Annually into the USA? Why?
As Is, Who benefits most, least?
Is there a better way? What is it?
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What costs? I don't really see a problem with increasing immigration. In fact, tax revenues from new immigrants can probably be put to good use in providing services and program from existing citizens.
tax revenues from new immigrants? from your beloved "foreign students"? LOL biggest oxymoron since god knows how many years. You are REALLY clueless and have been in a coma for all these time.
http://startupsusa.org/fortune500/
Go all the way to the very bottom of the page, and right above "Methodology" there's a link with the actual list, including countries of origin.
First ten on the list: Syria (Steve Jobs' dad), Scotland, Ireland, France, Cuba (Jeff Bezos' stepdad - his biological father was of Danish descent), England, Scotland, Canada, Sweden, Germany.
The lesson seems to be that we should ban immigration from everywhere but Europe, but I'd be open to handing out 10,000 green cards a year to the rank-ordered top scorers on some kind of cognitive test.
That's all great to know but to me, descendants of immigrants shouldn't really be counted as immigrants because otherwise where do you draw the line? Nobody is really really 100% home grown native to the land in North America. Even native Indians in both Canada and US are not really native to North America. They were migrants from somewhere else as well, mostly from Asia, very very very very long time ago, just earlier than the earliest European settlers.
Second, these people didn't become great innovators and entrepreneurs simply because they were children of immigrants; they became great because of their own efforts and the education and the cultivation that they received in the United States of America. As much as they are now touted as the poster child for immigrants, they are actually the testament of what we can achieve if we improved our education and supported people who had a talent and loved science and technology.