US's birth rate felt and dodo birds in bow ties thinks immigration is the solution

longandshort said:
So let's ship you off to another country and replace you with a foreign student who has more potential (we can give them your house too to solve housing). Great idea--let's make immigration work both ways.
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Yeah a foreign student that's going to learn everything and then go back to serve his/her own country or worse steal all of the technology to bring back to his/her origin country. Yeah great idea indeed. I don't mind going to another country. I am a trader. I can survive anywhere. :)
 
JSOP said:
Yeah a foreign student that's going to learn everything and then go back to serve his/her own country or worse steal all of the technology to bring back to his/her origin country.
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Well someone in your family decided to stay, so I think it's worth taking the risk.
 
longandshort said:
Many would like to stay and build a life here.

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This chart is comically misleading. 90% of the "immigrant founders" on the list were from Europe, many arrived 100 years ago or more. Seriously, it includes companies such as Disney (Walt was the son of Canadian immigrants) Verizon (Alexander Graham Bell) and Bank of America (founded by an Italian in the early 1900s).

Almost none of the fortune 500 were founded by the post-1965 Third World tsunami.
 
Specterx said:
Nonsense. The overwhelming majority (80% of legal immigrants and 98%+ of illegals) are from regions with significantly lower development levels and average IQs. Even if they weren't, the USA was already the world's preeminent economic and technological power prior to the recent flood - we were doing just fine without them. On the other hand, the huge costs of overpopulation, diversity, and endless social & political discord are permanent and will only worsen.
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But I don't even mind the diversity really but the problem is we are not necessarily getting the people that we need, rather people that can really be replaced by robotics and cultivated by just improving our education. All those "quality" immigrants mostly came from countries with high-quality education programs so why can't we just have that in the USA? Instead of spending on importing people, why can't we just spend on educating our own existing citizens instead??!!! You are going to spend either way, why not spend on our own people??!! I just don't see the necessity of immigration aside from all the problems associated with it.

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longandshort said:
Well someone in your family decided to stay
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Yeah from LONG time ago when they were truly the "poor, the weary and the huddled masses yearning to breathe free, the wretched refuse of your teeming shore and the homeless, tempest-tost..." My ancestors were truly homeless and were really yearning to brethe free exactly as described by that poem on the Statue of Liberty when they came to USA, not like your treasured "foreign student" today. LOL
 
Specterx said:
This chart is comically misleading. 90% of the "immigrant founders" on the list were from Europe, many arrived 100 years ago or more. Seriously, it includes companies such as Disney (Walt was the son of Canadian immigrants) Verizon (Alexander Graham Bell) and Bank of America (founded by an Italian in the early 1900s).

Almost none of the fortune 500 were founded by the post-1965 Third World tsunami.
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JSOP said:
Yeah from LONG time ago when they were truly the "poor, the weary and the huddled masses yearning to breathe free, the wretched refuse of your teeming shore and the homeless, tempest-tost..." My ancestors were truly homeless and were really yearning to brethe free exactly as described by that poem on the Statue of Liberty when they came to USA, not like your treasured "foreign student" today. LOL
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So you're saying we should open our doors to more than just foreign students. I agree.
 
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