US Marines just deployed on the ground inside Syria

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US Marines just deployed on the ground inside Syria
Christopher Woody,Business Insider


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A Marine detachment from an amphibious task force has left its ships to deploy to Syria near Raqqa, defense officials told The Washington Post.

While special-operations advisers have been on the ground in the country for some time, the move shifts more conventional personnel into the country and represents a new escalation of the US's involvement there.

Two officials, speaking anonymously, told The Post that the troops were part of the 11th Marine Expeditionary Unit out of San Diego. The units on the ground include elements of an artillery battery that can fire 155-millimeter shells from M777 Howitzers. Other infantrymen will provide security and other members of the expeditionary unit will deal with supplies.

Other Marines have been redeployed from Djibouti to Syria for support, another defense official told The Post.

That official said the deployment into Syria did not originate with President Donald Trump's call for a new plan to deal with ISIS. Rather, it was some time coming.

"The Marines answer a problem that the [operation] has faced,” the official told The Post, adding that they would provide "all-weather fires considering how the weather is this time of year in northern Syria."

The estimated maximum range of the M777 howitzer is about 20 miles, meaning the artillery base must be about that distance from the operation it is supporting. Some artillery rounds Marines have used in the past, however, can cover closer to 30 miles.

The deployment comes days after a convoy of US troops crossed into Syria from Iraqi Kurdistan.

The troops, comprised of US Army Rangers, were sent to Manbij in northern Syria purportedly to keep peace among the array of militias and other groups that have come together to combat ISIS.

“It’s a visible reminder, for anybody who’s looking to start a fight, that the only fight that should be going on right now is with ISIS,” Pentagon spokesman and Navy Capt. Jeff Davis told the Associated Press.
 
Yeah, to take out ISIS. Just like the article says. And Trump promised.

Not to help out ISIS, the worst scum on earth, defeat assad, as Obama was hell bent on doing.

The AP said it was 'some time coming'. But it didn't come till Trump. And only a friggin idiot thinks it would. Fake news.
 
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This volunteer force wants a chance to fight without their hands tied behind their back. And I for one want them to have the best equipment money can buy. Not sure why anybody gives a shit what a bunch of moslems do as long as they don't bother me. Seems to me as long as they are killing each other everything is going just fine. But it looks bad on TV so I guess we gotta go in and kill them.
 
Chicken hawk multi deferment draft dodgers like Trump and Chaney love sending other peoples kids to war.

This is just the beginning.Look forward to spending trillions and having thousands of troops coming home in coffins.
 
Chicken hawk multi deferment draft dodgers like Trump and Chaney love sending other peoples kids to war.

This is just the beginning.Look forward to spending trillions and having thousands of troops coming home in coffins.

As a moderate, I've shifted my perspective about the US being the world police. I used to think it was wrong to intervene in other countries' business (let's face it, how do you like Russian's meddling in our elections?). I've realized that sometimes the extra help is needed to aid in ousting dictators and bring an end to genocides. I supported Obama's Arab spring uprising for instance, as it sought to bring about democracy to the region (even if ultimately ended up being a clusterfuck do to lack of support in congress). I would've supported Saddam's toppling if it was sold as such and not as some WMD bs. I would support Kim Jong ousting as well, and I sure hope people would've supported intervention in the Rwanda conflict in the 90's. I wished Obama had renegotiated holding Iraq even if we were bound by Bush's agreements.

I'm sort of relieved Trump is flip-flopping on foreign intervention, but I do hope they don't fuck it up just to prop up Assad like the Russians are doing.
 
As a moderate, I've shifted my perspective about the US being the world police. I used to think it was wrong to intervene in other countries' business (let's face it, how do you like Russian's meddling in our elections?). I've realized that sometimes the extra help is needed to aid in ousting dictators and bring an end to genocides. I supported Obama's Arab spring uprising for instance, as it sought to bring about democracy to the region (even if ultimately ended up being a clusterfuck do to lack of support in congress). I would've supported Saddam's toppling if it was sold as such and not as some WMD bs. I would support Kim Jong ousting as well, and I sure hope people would've supported intervention in the Rwanda conflict in the 90's. I wished Obama had renegotiated holding Iraq even if we were bound by Bush's agreements.

I'm sort of relieved Trump is flip-flopping on foreign intervention, but I do hope they don't fuck it up just to prop up Assad like the Russians are doing.


The cost of toppling Saddam is thousands of US troops dead and wounded,trillions of US tax payer dollars,Saddam kept terrorist groups like Isis and Al queda out of Iraq,Saddam kept Iran in check and they only started working on nukes once Saddam was gone,Iraq is a total mess with Saddam gone and hundreds of thousands of people are dead because of Bush invading and you would have supported it if he had just said so?

If we try to oust Kim he is likely to nuke Japan and South Korea(where we have 28,000 troops) and we might have to use nukes or send in hundreds of thousands of troops at a cost of trillions of dollars and China has a treaty to defend them.



Vietnam,the Korean war,the Iraq war etc were total messes imo that cost the US tons of money and thousands of dead troops,ain't worth it imo.How many more trillions of dollars do we have to spend policing the world before you change your mind?
 
The cost of toppling Saddam is thousands of US troops dead and wounded,trillions of US tax payer dollars,Saddam kept terrorist groups like Isis and Al queda out of Iraq,Saddam kept Iran in check and they only started working on nukes once Saddam was gone,Iraq is a total mess with Saddam gone and hundreds of thousands of people are dead because of Bush invading and you would have supported it if he had just said so?

If we try to oust Kim he is likely to nuke Japan and South Korea(where we have 28,000 troops) and we might have to use nukes or send in hundreds of thousands of troops at a cost of trillions of dollars and China has a treaty to defend them.



Vietnam,the Korean war,the Iraq war etc were total messes imo that cost the US tons of money and thousands of dead troops,ain't worth it imo.How many more trillions of dollars do we have to spend policing the world before you change your mind?

I'm a bigger fan of intelligence driven conflicts and sanctions to exert pressure. I'd rather see the oppressed take up arms and us supporting on the sidelines (why I liked Obama's Arab spring). Iraq was a clusterfuck because it wasn't really about taking out Saddam (albeit I was glad he was out). I should've more clearly emphasized that I hated Iraq and the way it was handled, but would've supported covertly taking Saddam out.

Now, does the above come w/its own set of problems? Absolutely, (Mujahadeen turned Taliban after Russian occupation, contras in Nicaragua, etc..).

Americans will never be in a condition of oppression, but I am glad that the country and its service men have and will continue to aid those that are; is what I'm saying. May not be a popular position, but that's where I've come to stand.
 
I should've more clearly emphasized that I hated Iraq and the way it was handled, but would've supported covertly taking Saddam out.


Why? Sure he was an evil dictator but I have come to accept that some places need evil dictators to keep order.Saddam kept Iraq orderly,terrorist groups out and he kept Iran in check.Far more people have died since Saddam was ousted than during his entire dictatorship.I'm hoping Assad regains and keeps control of Syria,it will be far worse if he's gone imo.
 
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