US infrastructure is at the verge of collapsing.

[MohdSalleh]

If Obama is not stopped now, it will be disaster for all of us.

we HAVE to do something

 

[Div_Arb]

Quote from MohdSalleh:

If Obama is not stopped now, it will be disaster for all of us.

we HAVE to do something

Shouldn't you be kneeling towards Mecca right now, rather than posting anonymously on internet chatboards? Allah will not like this.....

 

[Billy Thunder]

Quote from pitz:

The travesty here is that, for the past few decades, engineers have been treated like sh*t in the economy, have been compensated very poorly for their skills, and the domestic labour force is now dominated by foreigners who may very well just get up and leave one the crap starts hitting the fan.

In most countries, engineers are the top dogs in the economy, and bankers and everyone else comes lower. In America, engineers have to drive used cars, live in appartments until they are 35-40 years old, and are the first to get laid off when there's a downturn.

In reality, engineers should be the $2M/year-paid people, and bankers should be the people driving the used cars and kissing the ground that they even get a piece of the economic pie. Who created all the infrastructure in the first place? Certainly not the money changers.

The best of the recent engineer grads are in finance, not as noble as you expose.

 

[maxpi]

The infrastructure is a near disaster after 40+ years of the "Great Society" programs of the Democrats... that's all you need to know about the Great Society vision of Democrats..

 

[Ivanovich]

I'm sorry, I have to laugh at this thread. There may be flaws and problems building in the US Infrastructure system that are serious for America. But in comparison to many, many other countries, the US is head and shoulders above most of the world.

Ever take a drive through rural Russia? Or how about in the mountains of Georgia (and I don't mean the US State). What about bridges in the countryside of China, or Vietnam? How about aging powerplants in half a dozen or more South American countries?

Please. Stop it.

 

[Billy Thunder]

Quote from Ivanovich:

I'm sorry, I have to laugh at this thread. There may be flaws and problems building in the US Infrastructure system that are serious for America. But in comparison to many, many other countries, the US is head and shoulders above most of the world.

Ever take a drive through rural Russia? Or how about in the mountains of Georgia (and I don't mean the US State). What about bridges in the countryside of China, or Vietnam? How about aging powerplants in half a dozen or more South American countries?

Please.

New day, new crisis.

 

[Debaser82]

Quote from Ivanovich:

I'm sorry, I have to laugh at this thread. There may be flaws and problems building in the US Infrastructure system that are serious for America. But in comparison to many, many other countries, the US is head and shoulders above most of the world.

Ever take a drive through rural Russia? Or how about in the mountains of Georgia (and I don't mean the US State). What about bridges in the countryside of China, or Vietnam? How about aging powerplants in half a dozen or more South American countries?

Please.

I read in another article posted some time ago a lot of the superior and more modern German and Japanese infrastructure could be attributed to the fact they got blown to pieces in WWII.

The US didnt have that advantage.

Funny way of looking at it but it does sound as if it has some merit.

 

[jprad]

Quote from Debaser82:

I read in another article posted some time ago a lot of the superior and more modern German and Japanese infrastructure could be attributed to the fact they got blown to pieces in WWII.

The US didnt have that advantage.

Funny way of looking at it but it does sound as if it has some merit.

Uh, who the fuck do you think helped them build it after they were blown to bits?

The problem in the U.S. was never quality, it was lack of funding for proper maintenance.

The Golden Gate and George Washington bridges are perfect, but by no means the only examples of how long things can last when they are properly maintained.

 

[aegis]

Quote from Ivanovich:

I'm sorry, I have to laugh at this thread. There may be flaws and problems building in the US Infrastructure system that are serious for America. But in comparison to many, many other countries, the US is head and shoulders above most of the world.

Ever take a drive through rural Russia? Or how about in the mountains of Georgia (and I don't mean the US State). What about bridges in the countryside of China, or Vietnam? How about aging powerplants in half a dozen or more South American countries?

Please. Stop it.

I agree.

So civil engineers give American infrastructure a grade of "D". A bit biased, aren't they? What do you expect them to say? They want work and they want to get paid.

It's true that engineers, especially civil engineers, are underpaid. However, most civil engineers work for the government and don't expect to make more than $70-80k. If they're willing to relocate to some other countries and move around a bit, they can easily make triple that amount.

I constantly see want-ads from KBR for civil engineers with little/no work experience ($100k+). I would have majored in civil engineering myself, but I could never get a grip on math past calculus 1, so I chose accounting instead.

 

[zdreg]

Quote from Billy Thunder:

The best of the recent engineer grads are in finance, not as noble as you expose.

where does noble come into the equation? if an engineer can make the transition into financial engineering more power to him or maybe he should try his hand at day trading.