As I'm sure you're aware,Google search is not a citation.You said there was a list of thousands of athletes and celebs who got covid twice.Please post that list and citation for it.Thanks.
Unvaccinated 5 times more likely to get Omicron
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As I'm sure you're aware,Google search is not a citation.You said there was a list of thousands of athletes and celebs who got covid twice.Please post that list and citation for it.Thanks.
So with glen beck and rudy gilbert you have posted sources for 6 athletes and celebs who got covid twice,far from the thousands you claimed.Please post a source for thousands of athletes and celebs who got covid twice.Thanks.
Go do the Google search and you can entertain yourself for hours by going through the results. I have no intent of cutting & pasting all the links for you.
Once again -- since most athletes do not announce their Covid cases and some are only determined by being placed on protocol lists twice in-season -- trying to use athletes and celebrities as a scientific determination of the overall reinfection level is meaningless. If you want to see a true view of reinfections -- it is best to take a look at the large-scale nation-wide data sets which are available from nations who meticulously tracked Covid cases.
You are claiming that you don't believe that reinfections occur because you don't personally know anyone who has been re-infected. While at the same time claiming to personally know many people who had vaccinated Covid breakthrough cases. This is hardly a scientific sampling. I suggest you go look at the science regarding Covid reinfections and vaccinated breakthrough cases which is widely available.
And this is a reminder -- the unvaccinated are over 5 times as likely to get Omicron, more than 17 times likely to be hospitalized (more than 48 times for older adults), and over 97 times as likely to die. The numbers are very stark in showing the benefits of Covid vaccination.
Enjoy your fantasy that Covid reinfectons are not common among the unvaccinated. All the scientific data shows your claims are completely incorrect.
So tell us -- where is a mainstream data source you use to support your claim that Covid reinfections are not common? Otherwise you are just asserting nonsense (and we know you are). You might as well go post these type of claims on Rumble, GETTR, and substack -- with the rest of the misinformation we are seeing.
Here is a proper source -
Unvaccinated individuals twice as likely to face COVID-19 reinfection: CDC study
https://www.elitetrader.com/et/thre...o-face-covid-19-reinfection-cdc-study.360728/
The study, published as part of the agency's Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report (MMWR), examined hundreds of residents, finding that the unvaccinated individuals had 2.34 times greater odds of reinfection compared with fully vaccinated individuals.
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I can find 1800 cases of vaccinated people you can actually put a face on from one sports league rather than these millions of studies with unknown people and results all over the place.
When it comes to people you can put a face on who got covid twice so far the most you could find is 6.
Once again your claims about individual people are not scientific in any manner -- especially since many celebrities and athletes attempt to not publicly reveal their Covid reinfections. Effectively you are pushing claims about re-infections with no scientific basis -- which is just a way of promoting misinformation.
The science-based large-scale studies performed by multiple nations provide a clear scope on the number of reinfections and their frequency.
Let's remind you again. Unvaccinated individuals are over twice as likely to be re-infected. The unvaccinated are over 5 times as likely to get Omicron, more than 17 times likely to be hospitalized (more than 48 times for older adults), and over 97 times as likely to die. The numbers are very stark in showing the benefits of Covid vaccination.
Tony,
You really need to come to grips with the fact that vaccinated people are easy to document while not vaccinated is not only more difficult to document...those that are celebrities will not publicly announce their reinfection status except for the few...usually, after it was leaked to the media.
Simply, I too can find a few thousand vaccinated people that have been infected with Covid but they are a tiny portion of millions of vaccinated people.
In contrast, as I've personally shown you the statistics of Minneapolis Hospitalization...those not vaccinated are statistically a bigger portion of the population although you continue looking at the raw numbers in which you're not able to see nor understand the simple math of the situation.
Seriously, I'm really curious why you continue ignoring the simple math of the statistics because it really isn't that difficult to understand via your own example that you posted about Minnesota Hospitalization that showed the raw numbers that there are more vaccinated people in the hospital with Covid than not vaccinated in which I replied with the below two charts that dove much deeper into the Covid data of Minnesota after the proper data adjustments have been made.
Note: Charts below are not studies.
Hospitalization
Deaths
Personally, anyone that can not get it about the above statistics... it's a waste of time to cater to any of their requests to put faces on the numbers.
Wake up, nobody in their right mind is going to waste the time & energy to post more than 1800 names of individuals that are professional athletes that have been reinfected with Covid to prove a point to another anonymous individual that has shown no sincere effort in understanding the statistics even in the city that the person has chosen as part of their argument.
Leave the sports folks alone. Instead, use the available verifiable data from hospitals or use the limited data from the United States about reinfections. We both know why the United States does not have the funds set aside for proper documentation of reinfections...
- Let this sink in, the United States is one of the worst countries for documenting genomic sequence verifiable reinfection data. In fact, it only sequences 2.5 - 5.0% of all their Covid infections as shown in the prior genomic sequencing map in a reply to you.
Last of all, as stated to you multiple times, professional athletes do not represent the general population. If you have a sincere interest in the research about Covid Reinfection...as stated...look at the research being done in the listed top 12 countries I gave you in a prior reply about reinfections (the United States is not among that list).
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Yet in the real world you cant name twice as many people who got covid twice than people who were vaccinated and got covid.
Says the guy who claimed there was a list of thousands of athletes and celebs who got covid twice
