Ok, we've doubled the number of mail in votes. Let's be generous and, not double, not triple, but quadruple the number of frauds. What is the historical rate of fraud multiplied by four? 0.0012%?
Uncompromising Men
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Then we'd need someone to verify that the notary is not a democrat.
In the movie Braveheart, Robert the Bruce is talking to the Leper about Wallace, and says "it might be time to ride out" with Wallace against England. The Leper smiles and says "Uncompromising men are easy to admire, but it is precisely the ability to compromise that makes a man noble."
I'm not comparing Trump's bumbling and stumbling to Wallace. And truth be known, Wallace wasn't the refined product Mel Gibson played him as in Braveheart if you've ever actually read up on it. But Trump is certainly uncompromising, and as a result, he gets the "populist" title and instantly everyone who hates the system or the Deep State or the machine, or whatever you want to call it, rallies to his banner.
I think there is rampant election anomalies. There is certainly fraud. I don't believe this to be in dispute. When you restrict poll monitors from one party - even against a court order - and not the other, the obvious question is "why"? There's simply no good answer. Then there's thousands of voters in Nevada who cast a NV vote while not living there. Then there's over 10k of voters in Michigan that are over the age of 100 who voted. I mean, come on. Or this:
Or a hundred other things pointing to shenanigans of some sort. I don't know what is real, or what is made up and fiction. I don't believe we will ever get to the bottom of it, and the reason is simple. No one wants Trump, except the people who rallied to his banner because he is uncompromising.
Right now Trump is finding it hard to get GOP support other than some nice platitudes or tweets calling for fair elections. Lip service. That's it. The GOP lawyers aren't responding to his calls for help. The party is quietly melting back into the shadows, leaving him to fend for himself. Even at the press conference, all he had was his family members and crazy ol' Rudy. That's it.
The deal was made. The "Machine" was surprised when he won the first time around, because they had too much faith in the polls. This time, they had a plan B. There was no way in hell they were going to tolerate another 4 years of a loose cannon who never understood that being a President meant you had to compromise. You don't scream and throw a tantrum when you don't get your way, and you need to act like an adult and play by the rules.
I have no doubt both parties met to convene a Faustian bargain of some sort where they said something to the effect of "We can't do this for another 4 years. None of us will survive." Like two foes who have spilled too much blood in a bitter war, they decided to push back from the table in mutual acceptance, lest they pass the point of no return. The GOP got to keep the senate and the appointees to the SCOTUS. The Dems got the Presidency. Everyone got rid of Trump.
What should be, and what is, alarming to the democrats - and I'm sure they realized this from this election is that they need to back off of the Stupid. They need to stop with the race wars, the radical behavior of not supporting the police or destroying public property or the cancel culture or all of the things the silent majority is tired of. That needs to be shut down, and it is what gave them Trump in the first place and what forced them to do what they had to do this time, lest Trump take another four years.
I don't know if Trump would have won in a fair election or not. I don't know that anyone does. All I know is that there was no way they were going to take that chance.
I am relieved that Biden will be in the White House and the GOP will keep the Senate. I hope we can return to a time of relative normalcy. I don't like what was done to ensure it is so, but I understand why it was done. However, the United States never gets to have the moral high ground in telling other countries about their elections ever again.
Not after what we just did.
What? Are you really trying to argue that lack of evidence does not mean there is no evidence because of partisan suspicions?
You state “there is certainly fraud.” I am aware of two instances of attempted fraud this election, one in Nevada where a lady tried to vote twice and another in Pennsylvania where a man tried to vote for his deceased mother. In both cases, one of which the GOP tried to use in their Nevada suit, was both people who were voting for Trump.
You cannot be certain without proof. You suspect. Now ask yourself what are really these basis of your suspicions. Unless of course you can produce some proof - which I will gladly review.
Next you cite an case in Philadelphia where poll watchers were granted the right to physically observe, which they were granted and followed as determined by a court. Now the city had to move scanning machines to accommodate the watchers court ordered space, then they complained about that. Again, no proof here just twisting the facts and taking positions out of context to make untrue statements seem true.
Out of state Nevada voters. These voters are identifiable in the GOP lawsuit as having zip codes that end in AE AA AR. These are codes for overseas Americans such as business professionals and military who still legally reside in America. For Example, AE means American in Europe, AA American in Asia.
Please stop.
Perhaps...
but requiring a notairzation is impossible. let's not forget the people living and serving overseas... people living in remote areas of the country, people living in the city....notarization is just not feasable.
There were also republican vigilante poll watchers trying record ballots with voter information in Michigan who tried to sue because they were blocked from recording.
Yeah, but love is blind. The heart wants what the heart wants.