UK Repression Hits New High

Hey slarti could you give us link to the information you presented.

I would really like to know if his speech is being silence or if he really did something criminal.

at the moment I am having trouble believing any thinking person could support what is going on over there.

Gert Wilders seems to be supporting Robinson and Gert Wilders is hero of free speech. If people are not allowed to speak out and be anti immigration... what has become of western values and free speech?

He warns that Robinson may be mixed in with islamic criminals in prison.
That is nuts.
What crime did Robinson commit?

See this earlier post Jem for the crime. It is well documented. The lads are straightforwardly trying to create a fictional history here. Tell a lie over and over so some will believe there must be some truth like Trump does.

https://www.elitetrader.com/et/threads/uk-repression-hits-new-high.321509/#post-4662962

He is in no danger, with his profile he will be kept perfectly safe. Knowing him he may stage a stabbing or other. Men like him make noise, make money and gain celebrity, they don't fix problems in the longer term.

I grew up near strong Sinn Fein/IRA families. I saw from 1972 when it really kicked off and for maybe 10 years the 'new' IRA did provide policing and such in areas where there was none. But the world changed around them becoming more decent and fair and the men like 'Tommy Robinson' in the conflict did not. This resulted in them dragging on sectarianism 'The Troubles' for far longer, a couple of decades, than it would have naturally run. Similar in Colombia also.

Conservative societies dig their heels in when forced by bullies, you may have noticed that. The UK's extremist nationalist party leader and future Alex Jones is not really helping anyone, guys like him never do except as a moral hazard lesson.

While it is first amendment wild west in the US I guess, judges order "reporting restrictions" sometimes until the case is over in the UK. Our boy breached these with prejudice and really and truly put large and complex trials of these sex grooming gangs at risk of the defense arguing the jury has been unfairly biased etc. So who was he helping? Certainly not the victims of the case he screwed around with and was sentenced for.

He had already been convicted so like anyone out on license, he was just taken to serve his remaining sentence. No conspiracy and he completely deserved it.

I'm mostly Irish so I don't go out of my way to defend the British on their double edged gifts to humanity however remember that the US would not have any notions of the individual's right being protected against the state without them. Guilty until proven innocent is the norm in the rest of the world and the US can thank the UK for a lot there.

It is dangerous in the extreme to let opportunistic creeps like "Tommy Robinson", Alex fucking Jones and others KKK rims to try and dictate reality like this.

I may well agree with anger against men in the Pakistani community of Rotherham and nearby however this is the age old balance between vigilantism and rule of law. Sometimes the law is bad or the execution is bad. The UK is made up of different counties each with their own police HQs and policing/political culture though one set of law. Parliamentary variations in Scotland, Wales and NI of course. Inter-force co-operation is problematic and inconsistency exists like US states applying federal law.

You can be certain that in other UK north and midland counties with large Pakistani Muslim populations (they are seriously backwards) there was copycat grooming however these gangs were aggressively pursued in other counties. South Yorkshire sure as shit had policing problems, they were doing a lot of victim blaming and trying to pass workload off to social services. Changes at the top were needed in that force. It happened late but it happened and hopefully will stay on track.
 
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In all probability without Ohr's wife's connection to fusion the FBI would not have known of the fusion project until Simpson (the Fusion founder) went to the FBI with their alarming findings. So as it turns out we are lucky that Ohr's wife was working for Fusion.

Yeh sure, and the FBI was so happy and "lucky" about having that little connection exposed that they immediately demoted and re-assigned Ohr- pending more investigation. How "lucky" can we get to find out how our state intelligence agencies are funding and cooperating in the opposition research of their preferred candidate?

That's fine. Have your little fun defending this stuff. And if you enjoy it then you can turn it into a full time job after the IG's report comes out before long. And as I have said several times, there is a bit of mindset that the coming IG's report is the definitive and conclusive finding of misconduct by the FBI- such that if certain issues are not covered they are not or were not a problem. NEGATORIAL. The IG's report focuses on the period related to the election lead-up and Hillary's investigaton but thousands and thousands of emails -especially of McCabe's and Comey's and other staff are still being released on a daily basis and will for months/years to come per various agreed upon release schedules. This is not a situation where a damning report comes out and then the FBI can deal with whatever damage comes out and then get on with restoring the agency. It will be drip, drip, drip for a long time to come with some bombshells in with the drips. This is the downside of Rosensteins little plan to stonewall the release of certain documents to protect himself and the agency. The downside is that the FBI/DOJ will be the subject of bad news for months/years to come and they are already in the toilet.
 
How "lucky" can we get to find out how our state intelligence agencies are funding and cooperating in the opposition research of their preferred candidate?
This is completely false in all respects. There was no coordination between what the FBI was doing and what the DNC was doing. The FBI did not communicate anything with regard to their investigation of Russian involvement in the 2016 election to the DNC nor to the public prior to the election. Anything with regard to the ongoing FBI investigation of Russian meddling in the election came much later, mainly through publicly available court documents, associated with indictments, etc. Why do you bother with statements that are demonstrably false. Furthermore, If the FBI did anything that might have influenced the election outcome it was to be distinctly unhelpful to the Clinton Campaign. Public knowledge of the Fusion project to investigate Trump came after Trump was elected and did not come from the FBI. May I suggest that you, like Trump, need to get a grip on reality.

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2018/03/12/christopher-steele-the-man-behind-the-trump-dossier
 
There was no coordination between what the FBI was doing and what the DNC was doing.

You may need to take a drug test if you believe there was no coordination. Hillary's campaign and the DNC were both paying for the Fusion GPS dossier with funds passed from them to the Perkins Cole Law Firm. You think that Nellie Ohr did not know who the hell her clients were when she was working on the dossier and that her husband, FBI Agent in Charge of Counterintelligence was not planning and coordiating along with the DNC funded effort when he was meeting with the Fusion people regularly- and we know he was because he was removed from his position for doing so. And you think that when the FBI started the process of jointly funding a continuation of the dossier investigation that they did not know what the dnc funded portion was working on. You need a drug test, and dont be surprised if it tests positive for Kool-Aid.

Trump is being investigated for allegedly colluding with the Russians to interfere with the election. Meanwhile the FBI is offering to pay for a continuation of dossier project which -in part- paid for a British agent and a former/current Russian KGB agent to develop dirt on trump to help bring him down. What's wrong with that picture class? Oh, that's right the hillary/dnc funded dossier were intended to help Trump. Yup. Kool-Aid.
 
Astounding claims require equally strong proof. I challenge you to find and proof of this, and post it here. You are delusional;.

What part are you contesting. The FBI attempt to fund a future phase or the dnc/clinton funding.
 
I notice piezoe went away after you shut down his silly and irrelevant point about the DNC not being the entity who gave a copy of the report to the FBI.
 
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slarti... I had not seen your previous links.
I could only read your posts on my phone.
thank you for responding.

I would think it all depends on whether your opinion of the appropriateness of his first conviction is correct. If it really was to protect the integrity of a trial against child rapists... and he was jeopardizing that integrity... he seems to have screwed up.
 
If it really was to protect the integrity of a trial against child rapists... and he was jeopardizing that integrity... he seems to have screwed up.

Use your head man. That's their excuse. They have been out to silence him for years. They wanted to ignore the child rape gangs. Otherwise the muslims would be upset. Raping vulnerable non-muslim girls seems to be part of their culture.
 
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