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Here4money said:
Kind of pointless to make the comparison no? Basically a KIA has the same performance as a GTR if we're talking legal street driving.
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Don’t make me block you. A Kia? Ever pass on the freeway? You posted a Nurburgring video.
 
Here4money said:
Kind of pointless to make the comparison no? Basically a KIA has the same performance as a GTR if we're talking legal street driving.
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Exactly, and if you want to race with a Tesla, it should be less than 200 miles as then the battery is empty. If you use airco or anything else these 200 miles will even never be reached. In winter it even gets worse. 30% less then in summer.

If you drive 1 hour at 200km/h the Tesla will have empty batteries, if he was already not overheating. I can beat any Tesla on a 300 km trip on the German autobahn with the Mini Cooper of my wife.
 
Pekelo said:
Comments from SA:

"But I think the reason he is floating the insurance idea is so he doesn't have to answer "what insurance company in its right mind will insure your shoddy untested FSD black box?"

Elon knows the answer is "nobody." So he figures Tesla will have to self-insure. But he doesn't want to present it to the investors as "nobody will insure us so I guess we have to do it...." Instead he tries to make it sound like Tesla will be able to make money at it."

"How are they going to justify various State insurance entities and regulator filings to offer insurance. there is no such thing as national car insurance programs. this is close to being as big a scam as Elon saying he hoped current Tesla lemmings would stay in his new private entity when it is clear for SEC rules such private entities do not exist."
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The call was a horror show. CEO of the company is delusional, the guidance and business plan has gone from aggressively optimistic to utter fantasy.

IMO the endgame is pretty clear: either Musk gets forced out this year pursuant to a BK reorg or buyout, or else TSLA goes live with FSD next year and it becomes a legendary scandal on the scale of Enron or Theranos.
 
Specterx said:
The call was a horror show. CEO of the company is delusional, the guidance and business plan has gone from aggressively optimistic to utter fantasy.

IMO the endgame is pretty clear: either Musk gets forced out this year pursuant to a BK reorg or buyout, or else TSLA goes live with FSD next year and it becomes a legendary scandal on the scale of Enron or Theranos.
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The End game is an Episode on American Greed, and he gets ousted out of SpaceX... MIC will kindly take SpaceX from him
 
destriero said:
lol rly? Check last trade. You think the last trade was 20D ago?
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Your buyer at 85, seems to have performed a houdini, while others have the spread at 8 fitty!

https://www.thetelegram.com/busines...ads-widens-to-a-record-after-big-loss-305356/

https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/a...nings-dwindling-cash-shows-the-need-for-speed

And yet Tesla remains resistant to the idea of raising more equity, despite questions about it on the call. For now, the message is that demand is strong, even though Tesla has been cutting prices just like any other car-maker does when inventory is up and they are trying to move metal. As the stock’s multiple suggests, faith in Tesla’s guidance remains strong for many investors. But the cash balance speaks to a narrowing margin of error. If the stock market hasn’t necessarily caught on to that, the bond market seems a little more ahead of the game.
 
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