Trump’s Lies vs. Obama’s Lies

Lying does nothing to help your argument.Politifact is a thousand times more truthful than trump will ever be

i’m sure you ment to say 1000.43 times more truthful. The extra precision lends an air of credibility to it. Like the number was methodically and statistically determined.
 
Conservatives criticize Poilitfact but get their facts checked from Zero Hedge,Breitbart and Wayne Allen Root:confused:

So there is a “clearing house” for “facts”, called Politifacts, and they provide a fact checking “service” for free?

Interesting “business” model. It sounds like a credibility device the media has created in an attempt to give them back some authority they have lost over the years through their biased “reporting.”
 
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So there is a “clearing house” for “facts”, called Politifacts, and they provide a fact checking “service” for free?

Interesting “business” model. It sounds like a credibility device the media has created in an attempt to give them back some authority they have lost over the years through their biased “reporting.”

Unless the media is ballwashing the conservative regime which is what Fox News does these days, everything looks biased to a Con.
 
i’m sure you ment to say 1000.43 times more truthful. The extra precision lends an air of credibility to it. Like the number was methodically and statistically determined.

Check the first post in this thread, it was methodically and statistically determined but you ignored that for some reason.
 
Unless the media is ballwashing the conservative regime which is what Fox News does these days, everything looks biased to a Con.

All mainstream U.S. media is crap, including Fox news. In order for the U.S. media to play the blame game effectively, they need the other side to participate.

Political discussions, like the ones here on Elite Trader are becoming more and more the new media. When we participants do our own thorough research and ethically relay the findings of that research, we have created a source of information whose value far exceeds than what is provided by the U.S. media.
 
All mainstream U.S. media is crap, including Fox news. In order for the U.S. media to play the blame game effectively, they need the other side to participate.

Political discussions, like the ones here on Elite Trader are becoming more and more the new media. When we participants do our own thorough research and ethically relay the findings of that research, we have created a source of information whose value far exceeds than what is provided by the U.S. media.

The problem is that your side relies on a host of fake news sites for your information - with the MSM, atleast there is some accountability with retractions and action against journalists if they make a mistake, on the conservative side lies are rewarded and promoted.
 
Check the first post in this thread, it was methodically and statistically determined but you ignored that for some reason.

Max E has effectively refutted the first post. In another thread, I have addressed the concept of the subjective use of what really is opinion in order to determine the criteria is for a lie.

The media’s smear campaign against Trump has been exposed yet again.
 
Max E has effectively refutted the first post. In another thread, I have addressed the concept of the subjective use of what really is opinion in order to determine the criteria is for a lie.

The media’s smear campaign against Trump has been exposed yet again.

Ok, here's the deal, I will make a new thread with every single lie Trump has uttered since he started his campaign, you can tell me either it's a SMEAR or a LIE and we will tally the final count to see who was in the wrong. Deal?

Also what exactly was exposed here? And what I find ironical here is, Trump is a known notorious liar but that's OK because someone else lies as well? Where are your standards? You can't complain about lying media on one hand and then support someone who is such a notorious liar on absolutely every issue.
 
Ok, here's the deal, I will make a new thread with every single lie Trump has uttered since he started his campaign, you can tell me either it's a SMEAR or a LIE and we will tally the final count to see who was in the wrong. Deal?

Also what exactly was exposed here? And what I find ironical here is, Trump is a known notorious liar but that's OK because someone else lies as well? Where are your standards? You can't complain about lying media on one hand and then support someone who is such a notorious liar on absolutely every issue.

I want to accept your challenge right now, but have limited time available for such an undertaking for the next couple of weeks. My argument will include a long list of specific techniques the media uses to manipulate public opinion. In addition, I will show some the consequences to our political system of these media manipulations.

Let’s start this battle in the new year.
 
I want to accept your challenge right now, but have limited time available for such an undertaking for the next couple of weeks. My argument will include a long list of specific techniques the media uses to manipulate public opinion. In addition, I will show some the consequences to our political system of these media manipulations.

Let’s start this battle in the new year.

Sure, my issue with your stance is that whatever you are accusing the regular media of doing, the right wing media does it way worse. I am talking about Limbaugh, Breitbart and GatewayPundit kind of stuff which is basically the gold standard of conservative media right now.
 
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