Trump's incompetence cost hundreds of thousands of lives, says own Pandemic coordinator

UsualName said:
The right wingers ducking this thread like they owe someone some money.

The whole thing was a sham the whole way through.
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Actually, you have half of them on ignore so you wouldn't see if they posted regardless. But if they're not posting, I'm sure its not because you're so open to hearing anything they have to say.
 
Overnight said:
We don't see that word in print as often as we should. I approve.
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I am doing my part to improve the level of our discourse...

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Maybe we agree with what others have said about her already...she seems like she is being a pos political animal like clown Fauci.
 
As we know, competent US Presidents are able to stop the spread of viruses. Exceptional US Presidents are able to stop viruses with wide open borders. Can you imagine what Biden will do to the poor Coronavirus having the use of several vaccines for 100% of his Presidential term?

Corona is going to get such a beating, it’ll never come back and leave with its relatives and Ebola, too.

Mark this thread and my words, the Biden Administration will be hailed “Heroes of the world” by the time the next flu season comes around.

Unless, of course, US Presidents can’t actually stop viruses from spreading. Trump was quick to shut down our borders with China and ordered a lock down, reducing the speed of the spread of the virus, thereby avoiding additional deaths because our hospitals did not, for the most part, become severely over-burdened, like they did in Italy and certain other countries. As it was, Biden accused Trump for being a “Xenophobe” for shutting down our borders with China. Anyone truly believe having Biden as President instead of Trump in 2020 would have resulted in a materially better outcome against Covid? As it was, the shutdown brought us to the brink, perhaps within two weeks, of systemic economic failure. We paid a high economic price to “Flatten the curve” that certainly reduced deaths from Coronavirus than would otherwise be the case. Although some have argued deaths from other causes related to the lockdown may have increased.

With now perfect knowledge of previous events and issues, any reader here care to put forth a policy that could be fairly be shown to outperform what Trump actually did? By outperform, I mean a policy that would conclusively reduce deaths from Corona while avoiding a worse impact on the US economy?

C’mon, go for it... enter the no p*ss* zone of political debating. If you dare.
 
There is no magic policy... just dont be a fucktard and claim that it is nothing, will magically go away, that bleach in your asshole will cure it, or try to pretend it does not exists or think you know more than doctors. trumptard did not have to do much except get out of the way and let a few medical professionals discuss and debate the proper approach. trump is too fat to get out of his own way. WHen he claimed that he knew more than doctors despite his stupidity you can tell he was controlling the narrative.

A politician does not stop a virus and no one claims he could have stopped it. His fucked up reaction to pretend it was nothing put the country severly behind and led to a mass debate about a COVID hoax and people claiming health precautions were conspiracy theories to control people.
 
Here4money said:
shocker, I know. Thank God for Biden and his vaccine:

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/28/world/cnn-birx-fauci-giroir-interviews-trump.html
Trump’s former pandemic coordinator suggests restrained response may have cost hundreds of thousands of lives.

In interviews broadcast on CNN Sunday night, former President Donald J. Trump’s pandemic officials confirmed in stark and no uncertain terms what was already an open secret in Washington: The administration’s pandemic response was riddled with dysfunction, and the discord, untruths and infighting likely cost many lives.

Dr. Deborah L. Birx, Mr. Trump’s coronavirus response coordinator, suggested that hundreds of thousands of Americans may have died needlessly, and Adm. Brett P. Giroir, the testing czar, said the administration lied to the public about the availability of testing.

The comments were among a string of bombshells that emerged during a CNN special report that featured the doctors who led the government’s coronavirus response in 2020.

Dr. Robert R. Redfield, the former director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, who was also interviewed, accused Mr. Trump’s health secretary, Alex M. Azar, and the secretary’s leadership team, of pressuring him to revise scientific reports. “Now he may deny that, but it’s true,” Dr. Redfield said. Mr. Azar, in a statement, denied it.

Dr. Stephen K. Hahn, the former commissioner of the Food and Drug Administration, said his relationship with Mr. Azar grew “strained” after the health secretary revoked the agency’s power to regulate coronavirus tests. “That was a line in the sand for me,” Dr. Hahn said. When Dr. Gupta asked him if Mr. Azar had screamed at him, Dr. Hahn replied: “You should ask him that question.”

But it was Dr. Birx, who has been pilloried for praising Mr. Trump as being “so attentive to the scientific literature” and for not publicly correcting the president as he made outlandish claims about unproven therapies, whose disclosures — in one of her first televised interviews since leaving the White House in January — may have been the most compelling.

As of Sunday, more than 548,000 Americans have died from infection with the coronavirus. “I look at it this way,” she said. “The first time, we have an excuse. There were about 100,000 deaths that came from that original surge.”

“All of the rest of them,” she said, referring to almost 450,000 deaths, “in my mind, could have been mitigated or decreased substantially” had the administration acted more aggressively.

She also described a “very uncomfortable, very direct and very difficult” phone call with Mr. Trump after she spoke out about the dangers of the virus last summer. “Everybody in the White House was upset with that interview,” she said.

After that, she decided to travel the country to talk to state and local leaders about masks and social distancing and other public health measures that the president didn’t want her to transmit to the American public from the White House podium.

Dr. Gupta asked if she was being censored. “Clearly someone was blocking me from doing it,” she said. “My understanding was I could not be national because the president might see it.”

Several of the officials, including Dr. Anthony S. Fauci — who unlike the others is a career scientist and is now advising President Biden — placed blame on China for not being open enough with the United States. And several, including Dr. Redfield and Dr. Giroir, said early stumbles with testing — and the attitude within the White House that testing made the president look bad by driving up the number of case reports — were a serious problem in the administration’s response.

And the problems with testing went beyond simply Mr. Trump’s obsession with optics. Dr. Giroir said that the administration simply did not have as many tests as top officials claimed at the time.

“When we said there were millions of tests — there weren’t, right?,” he said. “There were components of the test available but not the full deal.”
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Yeah------no.
 
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