Trumpies kill black man out on a jog

[wrbtrader]

Just don't try a citizen's arrest in Kenosha

Growing up in the Chicago area (Evanston) for a while...our Parents would drive to the Bears / Packers football games in Greenbay.

As we approached Kenosha, my old man would tell us that if we need to go to the toilet...we better hold it because we're not stopping. We always held it until we reached Milwaukee and stopped for a few hours to visit my old man's friend that lived on a farm just west of Milwaukee.

• Its a nice drive when you get past Kenosha.

We then head up to Greenbay. I snuck up there (Kenosha) once with my brothers and we came across a midget (he was Polish or something) that wanted to beat us up and told us to get the fuck out of town. We were only there because we heard the girls were easy.

wrbtrader

 

[kmgilroy89]

Based on the laws in Georgia being cited at this trial -- it appears that you can (in Georgia at that time). You merely need the suspicion that the person may be involved in a crime.

Note -- I am not defending this -- just noting what the press is saying about the trail.

It was a really stupid law, but I guess it's what the jury has to work with. However, what's their probable cause justifying citizen's arrest?

 

[gwb-trading]

It was a really stupid law, but I guess it's what the jury has to work with. However, what's their probable cause justifying citizen's arrest?

Good question. They claim they saw him "burglarizing" the house under construction... and he was there about 12 days previously when they had a police officer with the flashlight searching for the intruder. Someone who has watched the trial can probably provide much better details than I can.

 

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[El OchoCinco]

Good question. They claim they saw him "burglarizing" the house under construction... and he was there about 12 days previously when they had a police officer with the flashlight searching for the intruder. Someone who has watched the trial can probably provide much better details than I can.

I guess you can claim anything and stop.whoever with a gun and shoot them dead if they don't comply under that Georgia law....

Citizens cannot violate the constitution just because cops do it all the time

 

[Bugenhagen]

Pointless musings..

I have felt unreasonably threatened with guns several times in the US, and only the US, because of my size. This has been by cops unclipping, or even unholstering their gun approaching me. At no time was I doing anything but normal stuff, simply the cop knew I was too strong for them and nervously handled their gun in my presence.

That's not cool but they are cops and did not raise the gun. If an ordinary person did the same in a public space I might easily choose to bring a misdemeanor assault charge for threatening with a deadly weapon.

The threat of deadly force for a misdemeanor trespass which is not even committed in the presence of the McMichaels?

"Assault by pointing a gun is a Class A1 misdemeanor and regardless of your previous record could result in active jail time." This the law in NC and probably similar everywhere.

The victim was younger and physically outclassed elder McMichael but was in a public space.

Was he entitled to attempt to use the threat of a loaded gun to level the playing field? No. If you pull away from a cop trying to arrest you, that's resisting arrest, this does not apply to an ordinary citizen.

McMichael Sr should face a serious charge as he was in no danger and only got out if his truck because he was emboldened by the shotgun he was not entitled to threaten with. We can't see what happened but I'd be very surprised if when chasing in the truck they had not done this dangerously, risked running over him if he tripped or tried to hit him.

 

[vanzandt]

Growing up in the Chicago area (Evanston) for a while...our Parents would drive to the Bears / Packers football games in Greenbay.

As we approached Kenosha, my old man would tell us that if we need to go to the toilet...we better hold it because we're not stopping. We always held it until we reached Milwaukee and stopped for a few hours to visit my old man's friend that lived on a farm just west of Milwaukee.

• Its a nice drive when you get past Kenosha.

We then head up to Greenbay. I snuck up there (Kenosha) once with my brothers and we came across a midget (he was Polish or something) that wanted to beat us up and told us to get the fuck out of town. We were only there because we heard the girls were easy.

wrbtrader

btw that story you told about giving that girl a ride on veterans day years ago was cool.

 

[El OchoCinco]

We then head up to Greenbay. I snuck up there (Kenosha) once with my brothers and we came across a midget (he was Polish or something) that wanted to beat us up and told us to get the fuck out of town. We were only there because we heard the girls were easy.

wrbtrader

The girls are easy... but you need to get past the little guy first...

 

[wrbtrader]

btw that story you told about giving that girl a ride on veterans day years ago was cool.

She called me on Veteran's Day just to check in with me. She's been given a teaching assignment @ West Point.

My ex-spouse (a West Point graduate), our teenagers, and I may visit her soon depending upon what University my oldest teenager selects and Covid situation (borders open/close...a lot of changes).

He has options...military academy in France, Canada, or the United States.

wrbtrader

 

[Mercor]

The lesson in both Kenosha and Georgia case is don't lunge for gun barrels....It changes the whole legal assessment