And there is the impartial justice system again... mistakenly my ass...
Not surprised a cop is on trial and blue protecting one of their own instead of weeding out the trash.
Trumpies kill black man out on a jog
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And there is the impartial justice system again... mistakenly my ass...
Not surprised a cop is on trial and blue protecting one of their own instead of weeding out the trash.
Slow-moving jury selection continues in Ahmaud Arbery slaying trial
Arbery’s mental health records and prior criminal history are detailed in several documents easily accessible by anyone visiting the court’s website. Judge Timothy Walmsley has refused to allow either piece of evidence at the trial, but the information remained online Thursday, potentially exposing jury members to documents they are not supposed to see. If one does see the suppressed documents and ends up in the final panel of jurors, a mistrial could be declared, experts have said.
Arbery’s mental health records and prior criminal history are detailed in several documents easily accessible by anyone visiting the court’s website. Judge Timothy Walmsley has refused to allow either piece of evidence at the trial, but the information remained online Thursday, potentially exposing jury members to documents they are not supposed to see. If one does see the suppressed documents and ends up in the final panel of jurors, a mistrial could be declared, experts have said.
Daily trial updates at this site.
Who Is Joyette Holmes, The New Prosecutor In The Ahmaud Arbery Case?
Holmes is the fourth prosecutor to be in charge of the case.
Brunswick District Attorney Jackie Johnson recused herself from the case almost immediately because Gregory McMichael had previously worked in her office as an investigator. George Barnhill only recused himself after Arbery's mother raised objections.
Barnhill wrote in his recusal letter that he believed the suspects were acting in accordance with the law.
"It appears their intent was to stop and hold this criminal suspect until law enforcement arrived," he wrote. "Under Georgia law, this is perfectly legal."
Atlantic Judicial Circuit DA Tom Durden was handling the case prior to Holmes' appointment.
Holmes is the fourth prosecutor to be in charge of the case.
Brunswick District Attorney Jackie Johnson recused herself from the case almost immediately because Gregory McMichael had previously worked in her office as an investigator. George Barnhill only recused himself after Arbery's mother raised objections.
Barnhill wrote in his recusal letter that he believed the suspects were acting in accordance with the law.
"It appears their intent was to stop and hold this criminal suspect until law enforcement arrived," he wrote. "Under Georgia law, this is perfectly legal."
Atlantic Judicial Circuit DA Tom Durden was handling the case prior to Holmes' appointment.
Slavery-era Georgia law is key defense argument in trial over Ahmaud Arbery's killing
When the fatal encounter occurred on Feb. 23, 2020, it was legal in Georgia for people to arrest someone where they had "reasonable and probable grounds of suspicion" that the person had just committed a felony. Outcry over the killing led to lawmakers revoking the statute in May.
Legal observers say prosecutors will seek to convince the jury that there was no felony over which to arrest Arbery, 25, and that the three men lacked the "reasonable and probable suspicion" required under the old citizen's arrest law. The trial is in the second week of jury selection.
Before Arbery's killing, the law had been largely unchanged since it was codified in 1863, when Georgia was part of the slaveholding Southern Confederacy during the U.S. Civil War.
Most U.S. states have codified some form of a law allowing citizen's arrests. The American Civil Liberties Union and others that successfully sought to repeal the law said the state's statute was originally passed to enable the capture of escaped slaves.
Travis McMichael, 35, his father, Gregory McMichael, 65, and their neighbor William "Roddie" Bryan, 52, say they suspected Arbery was a burglar and chased him in two pickup trucks as he ran down a street in mostly white Satilla Shores, a suburb of the small coastal city of Brunswick.
Just before he was cornered and shot to death, Arbery had entered an unoccupied property where a house was under construction. The owner of the property has said nothing was taken and that Arbery, who was on a Sunday afternoon jog, probably just stopped there for a drink of water.
When the fatal encounter occurred on Feb. 23, 2020, it was legal in Georgia for people to arrest someone where they had "reasonable and probable grounds of suspicion" that the person had just committed a felony. Outcry over the killing led to lawmakers revoking the statute in May.
Legal observers say prosecutors will seek to convince the jury that there was no felony over which to arrest Arbery, 25, and that the three men lacked the "reasonable and probable suspicion" required under the old citizen's arrest law. The trial is in the second week of jury selection.
Before Arbery's killing, the law had been largely unchanged since it was codified in 1863, when Georgia was part of the slaveholding Southern Confederacy during the U.S. Civil War.
Most U.S. states have codified some form of a law allowing citizen's arrests. The American Civil Liberties Union and others that successfully sought to repeal the law said the state's statute was originally passed to enable the capture of escaped slaves.
Travis McMichael, 35, his father, Gregory McMichael, 65, and their neighbor William "Roddie" Bryan, 52, say they suspected Arbery was a burglar and chased him in two pickup trucks as he ran down a street in mostly white Satilla Shores, a suburb of the small coastal city of Brunswick.
Just before he was cornered and shot to death, Arbery had entered an unoccupied property where a house was under construction. The owner of the property has said nothing was taken and that Arbery, who was on a Sunday afternoon jog, probably just stopped there for a drink of water.
You don't get to initiate a public confrontation in which you have a gun and the other person doesn't and then shoot them when they try to defend themselves.
The use of the threat of deadly force requires the perception of authority to back it as even fairly normal men will be infuriated otherwise.
The use of the threat of deadly force requires the perception of authority to back it as even fairly normal men will be infuriated otherwise.
It was legal to make a citizens arrest in GA at the time, if there was probable cause.
Jogging while black isn't probable cause
As a kid growing up in three different neighborhoods (Kentucky, South Dakota, and Illinois) when we lived in the United States as a military family...
There were new homes being built within a few blocks of our house and some of those new homes had "Under Construction Warning Signs". None had "Private Property" nor "Do Not Enter" signs.
Simply, it was normal to see kids and teenagers get curious and enter these new homes being built just to see what it looked like from the inside while the new home was under construction. I specifically remember doing such a few times with my friends but never at night (too scared).
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Video from the day of Arbery's death, obtained by The Atlanta Journal-Constitution, shows a black man wearing a T-shirt and shorts walking up to a house under construction, entering and then leaving shortly after. Lawyers representing Arbery's family said in a statement Saturday that the security camera video proves Arbery did nothing wrong.
"Ahmaud did not take anything from the construction site," the family's lawyers said in a statement. "He did not cause any damage to the property. He remained for a brief period of time and was not instructed by anyone to leave but rather left on his own accord to continue his jog. Ahmaud's actions at this empty home under construction were in no way a felony under Georgia law."
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Had this guy enter the new home under construction with a backpack and then left the home with a full backpack or carrying items from the home...
Probable cause that a crime was committed.
Had this guy been pushing a wheel barrel down the street with construction supplies, loading up a car or van with material from the home under construction...
That's probable cause.
wrbtrader
There were new homes being built within a few blocks of our house and some of those new homes had "Under Construction Warning Signs". None had "Private Property" nor "Do Not Enter" signs.
Simply, it was normal to see kids and teenagers get curious and enter these new homes being built just to see what it looked like from the inside while the new home was under construction. I specifically remember doing such a few times with my friends but never at night (too scared).
- We usually spent a few minutes walking around looking (curious) at the construction of a home. One of my friends was inspired by such. Today, he's a famous architect in Chicago.
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Video from the day of Arbery's death, obtained by The Atlanta Journal-Constitution, shows a black man wearing a T-shirt and shorts walking up to a house under construction, entering and then leaving shortly after. Lawyers representing Arbery's family said in a statement Saturday that the security camera video proves Arbery did nothing wrong.
"Ahmaud did not take anything from the construction site," the family's lawyers said in a statement. "He did not cause any damage to the property. He remained for a brief period of time and was not instructed by anyone to leave but rather left on his own accord to continue his jog. Ahmaud's actions at this empty home under construction were in no way a felony under Georgia law."
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Had this guy enter the new home under construction with a backpack and then left the home with a full backpack or carrying items from the home...
Probable cause that a crime was committed.
- Jogging down a street in a tee-shirt and jogging shorts before briefly entering a new home under construction with no occupants living there...those seeing you do such and then see you leave the home to continue your jogging...
Had this guy been pushing a wheel barrel down the street with construction supplies, loading up a car or van with material from the home under construction...
That's probable cause.
wrbtrader
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