Trumper's won't get vaccinated. Want to stay locked down forever

[jem]

you argue like a child.

that is not my claim.

Are you now claiming that outdoor BLM protests don't spread COVID?

You know... despite all the health warnings from cities to get tested after COVID spread across people present at these events in the Carolinas.

 

[gwb-trading]

you argue like a child.

that is not my claim.

Well good.... we will send the BLM protestors over to your neighborhood to raise a ruckus.... since obviously you have no public health objections from them doing so outside.

 

[jem]

they planned, they got nearby...

there was no spread according to your team's headlines...


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Well good.... we will send the BLM protestors over to your neighborhood to raise a ruckus.... since obviously you have no public health objections from them doing so outside.

 

[gwb-trading]

they planned, they got nearby...

there was no spread according to your team's headlines...


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Amusing... in the past I provided all the health warnings issued by cities in the Carolinas that came out of these BLM protest events.

It's amusing to see you supporting BLM. These articles indicate that BLM events magically don't spread COVID but somehow spring break, alt-right protests, concerts, nascar races, and all other crowded outdoor events magically do. Great to see you buying into the mainstream media narrative that you regularly reject as biased.

 

[jem]

you really function as a low IQ moron.
nothing about this is amusing.

produce the data and the studies... if you wish to have a useful discussion.
cease with the fear mongering bullshit and be useful.

you have tried all those arguments before... and what you produce is models and fear mongering instead of data whenever I check you links.

Amusing... in the past I provided all the health warnings issued by cities in the Carolinas that came out of these BLM protest events.

It's amusing to see you supporting BLM. These articles indicate that BLM events magically don't spread COVID but somehow spring break, alt-right protests, concerts, nascar races, and all other crowded outdoor events magically do. Great to see you buying into the mainstream media narrative that you regularly reject as biased.

 

[gwb-trading]

you really function as a low IQ moron.
nothing about this is amusing.

produce the data and the studies... if you wish to have a useful discussion.
cease with the fear mongering bullshit and be useful.

All the information has already been provided in previous posts. Go use the search function.

I am not going to post the same information over and over and over again for you -- -because you never read it... then demand it again.

Not happening anymore.

 

[jem]

you are so full of shit...

where is the statically significant outdoor spread?

you have never produced crap...

All the information has already been provided in previous posts. Go use the search function.

I am not going to post the same information over and over and over again for you -- -because you never read it... then demand it again.

Not happening anymore.

 

[wrbtrader]

Are you now claiming that outdoor BLM protests don't spread COVID?

You know... despite all the health warnings from cities to get tested after COVID spread across people present at these events in the Carolinas.

It's extremely difficult to document "Outdoor Covid Spread" and most likely it can only be done in a country that has excellent contact tracing and/or using volunteers for a research study involving outdoor gatherings...no face mask wearing.

China has a documented case and a few other countries have unverified cases of outdoor Covid spread from an infected individual to another individual. Yet, when I say unverified, I'm referring to the contact tracing was very poor (e.g. Rose Garden Event at the White House)...many of those infected individuals had been indoors together before going outdoors to the Rose Garden and then again indoors after being outdoors in the Rose Garden.

• It's impossible to determine if the Covid spread was via indoors or outdoors.

The rare (few) documented cases in other countries...they don't know if the spread occurred because the person acquired Covid via breathing the aerosol droplets of Covid or if the Covid droplets were on a surface that was touched by the person that became infected while outdoors. Example of the latter...an infected person with Covid...coughs or sneezes in their hand and then minutes later shakes hand with another individual outdoor...such as seeing a friend at an outdoor gathering.

The above is an example of why its extremely difficult to document outdoor Covid spread because these individuals eventually go back indoors and then later if / when they become ill days later...its assume the Covid spread had occurred indoors.

The key is contact tracing that's not very good in most countries (e.g. United States and Canada). Therefore, as it currently stands...Covid spread is outdoors is rare but that does not imply its impossible.

• I'm not talking about Covid spread via surfaces (e.g. doorknob, kitchen countertop).

I'm talking about a heavy concentrated viral load via a cough or sneeze that has not been prevented by a wearing a face mask. This is why people should always carry a small bottle of Hand Sanitizer with them especially when hanging outdoor with those they're familiar with because of the tendency to shakes hands or touch/rub their eyes with their hands...the latter a seldom discussed route for Covid.

Simply, Covid spread outdoors is rare but it can happen via a heavy concentrated viral load. Then when such happens...its extremely difficult that the person infected occurred outdoors can be contact traced to someone outdoors especially if the person is unfamiliar.

With all that said above...keep in mind that Covid is still new. What we know about it today...we'll know a lot more about it by end of year plus there will have been more research done.

For example, there's research studies in real outdoor gathering to determine if / when / how Covid is spread outdoors...currently ongoing today. A few have already occurred too.

• https://www.npr.org/sections/corona...nt-tests-how-coronavirus-spreads-at-a-concert

Also, involving another research study...I saw a video on a Sweden website talking about a recent concert this past weekend or coming up this weekend about a similar research to test the merits of Outdoor Covid Spread with volunteers whom will not be wearing face masks.

Yet, I can't remember if the study will be in Sweden or if Sweden was talking about a study in another country. Apparently a few Covid infected people will be sent into the concert but they are not sick and all the other volunteers will then be quarantine just in case they do become infected.

I'm very surprise these types of studies are not more frequent in Outdoor testing situations...example at barbecues, outdoor dining, teenagers hanging out in a parking lot, kids playing with each other in someone's backyard, gatherings at a beach and so on.

wrbtrader

 

[jem]

gwBE-lying caught lying again...you have not documented any statistically significant outdoor spread....


here is a study giving you the facts...

"There were virtually no cases that we could identify that took place in sort of everyday life outdoors," study author Mike Weed, a professor and researcher at Canterbury Christ Church University, told AFP.


(If you read the article there is one case in china... which was pretty suspect)





OCTOBER 13, 2020

Catching coronavirus outside is rare but not impossible


"Almost all documented coronavirus transmissions have occurred indoors, but experts say that wearing a mask outside is justified because there is still a risk of infection."


https://medicalxpress.com/news/2020-10-coronavirus-rare-impossible.html

 

[gwb-trading]

Trump advisers 'practically begged him' to promote vaccines to MAGA followers -- but he won't
https://www.rawstory.com/trump-vaccine-2651205492/