Trump was right on Belgium too... (it is tragic that he is so correct)

[Ditch]

I doubt you can fully appreciate how difficult this is for Americans to understand, that a person, a leading politician moreover, can be criminally prosecuted for questioning immigration policy. We are slowly getting a dose of it, mainly through university speech codes. And of course, our resident PC expert from Canada, nine_ender, regularly reminds us we would be prosecuted in Canada for expressing negative opinions of officially protected groups. He does not see the irony of coming on here and slandering us as racists and bigots however.

I watched the whole trial on television. In his plea Gert Jan Knoops compared the position of Trump with Geert Wilders and actually mentioned that it would be totally unimaginable in the USA to prosecute a politician for something like this. Can you imagine what it's like to have grown up in one of the most free, open-minded and friendly societies of the world and see it turn into a DDR-light by socialists, it's like living a Orwellian nightmare.

 

[jem]

I watched again.
You know how we have activists for people held as political prisoners.
I will become an activist for this man and his cause if necessary.
This is important.
Freedom of speech and thought must be protected from people with Govt and political power.

Free Geert...Free Geert -- PVV - Partij voor Vrijheid

Free Geert - the price of Freedom for the partij voor Vrijheid

 

[Ditch]

Freedom of speech and thought must be protected from people with Govt and political power.

This is exactly the main foundation of Knoops' defense. He argued that freedom of speech and thought should NEVER be limited by goverment.

 

[Ditch]

Just watched some Belgian TV. The main consensus on how to deal with terrorism is more police, more government control, more power to the EU, less protection of privacy of citizens. Not a word on stopping muslim immigration. Anyone still wonders what the government agenda is?

 

[Ricter]

“Freedom of expression is not absolute, it is paired with obligations and responsibilities, the responsibility not to set groups of people against each other,” said lead prosecutor Wouter Bos.

 

[destriero]

(January 27th New York Times) […] Asked by the Fox Business Network anchor Maria Bartiromo about the feasibility of his proposal to bar foreign Muslims from entering the United States, Mr. Trump argued that Belgium and France had been blighted by the failure of Muslims in these countries to integrate.

“There is something going on, Maria,” he said. “Go to Brussels. Go to Paris. Go to different places. There is something going on and it’s not good, where they want Shariah law, where they want this, where they want things that — you know, there has to be some assimilation. There is no assimilation. There is something bad going on.”

Warming to his theme, he added that Brussels was in a particularly dire state. “You go to Brussels — I was in Brussels a long time ago, 20 years ago, so beautiful, everything is so beautiful — it’s like living in a hellhole right now,” Mr. Trump continued.

For Belgians, already reeling from recent terrorist plots and a chronically dysfunctional government, Mr. Trump’s words were enough to induce a fit of pique worthy, in some cases, of Mr. Trump himself. (read more)

http://theconservativetreehouse.com...belgium-the-new-york-times-mocked-him-for-it/

He was right? We had known by that point (Trump's rant) that the Paris attackers had been living in Belgium. Further, they had to act as Abdeslam was captured and talking. You're a f*cking cartoon.

 

[WeToddDid2]

Looks like one libtard woke up.

A few excerpts below.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...t-time-started-listening-seriously-Trump.html

PIERS MORGAN: When it comes to terror, isn’t it time we started listening seriously to Trump?

How many more?

That’s all I could think this morning as news broke of yet another ISIS terror attack, this time in Brussels.

How many more innocent men, women and children are going to be blown to pieces by these murderous bastards?

How many more airports, train stations, sports stadiums, restaurants or concert halls will be obliterated in a hail of suicide bombs and bullets?

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Trump told me countries must tighten their borders in light of these terror attacks, especially to anyone related to an ISIS fighter in Syria.

Is he so wrong?

He told me he wants law-abiding Muslims to root out the extremists in their midst, expressing his bafflement and anger that someone like Abdeslam was able to hide for so long in the very part of Brussels he had previously lived.

Is he so wrong?

He told me America must make it far harder for illegal immigrants to enter the U.S. and thinks European countries should follow suit.

Is he so wrong?

He told me he believes there are now areas of many major European cities which have become poisonous breeding grounds for radicalized Islamic terror.

Is he so wrong?

I didn’t feel I was talking to a lunatic, as many seem to view Trump.

I saw a guy, a non-politician unfettered by PC language restraints, who is genuinely furious at the devastation which ISIS is wreaking, and seriously concerned for the security of his fellow Americans and indeed, the citizens of Europe.

 

[Ditch]

“Freedom of expression is not absolute, it is paired with obligations and responsibilities, the responsibility not to set groups of people against each other,” said lead prosecutor Wouter Bos.

A quote of a legal midget. First of all there's no proof that Geert Wilders is doing the latter. What he does do is speak the truth about the problems Moroccans cause in Dutch society: they are vastly over-represented in crime statistics, in dependency on social welfare, are the worst performers in the education system and are the biggest contributor to Jihad recruits. Secondly the legal framework in which freedom of speech and tolerance towards problematic minorities are put into context is absent in the Netherlands.

 

[fhl]

they are vastly over-represented in crime statistics, in dependency on social welfare, are the worst performers in the education system

Wow, does that ever sound familiar here in America.

 

[Ditch]

Wow, does that ever sound familiar here in America.

Just blatant facts, but in the leftist's mind this is hate speech to set groups up against each other and you need to be incarcerated for that.