Trump Says He Can Pardon Himself

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"exGOPer, post: 4667378, member: 327981"]Peterson is for philistines who have never read any philosophy or psychology book in their lives, even basic concepts are a great revelation to these idiots.
At least it sounds like you understand and agree Jordan Peterson is talking about basic concepts.

Jordan Peterson is trying to find solutions to serious societal problems. The Left does nothing to enhance their credibility when they attack him but propose no practical and viable solutions of their own.

The statement and characterization that "Peterson is for philistines who have never read any philosophy or psychology book in their lives, even basic concepts are a great revelation to these idiots." is rediculous, unsupportable, and shows there are elements on the Left that care more about control rather than actually attempting to solve problems.

Let's bring up Baltimore again and use it as a case study here. Baltimore has been politically controlled by the Democrats for about 150 years. For the last couple of decades, the population of Baltimore has actually declined because declining economic opportunities versus a rough doubling of U.S. population in the same time period. Presumably, the Democrats stay in power by convincing stupid people that the people who are not in power are to blame for their problems. In other words, the Democrats tell their gullible constituents that "It is stupid to vote for Republicans and you don't want to be stupid, right?"




"exGOPer, post: 4667381, member: 327981"]These are the same people who consider Trump a role model and worth supporting.
This is another rediculous characterization. I understand certain elements of the Left being afraid of people becoming self-reliant, which is part of what Jordan Peterson is promoting. Self-reliant people don't need big government to support them, thus reduces the power base of the Democrats. I wish the Democrats ran on principle again and rediscover a positive agenda that addresses the needs of a healthy society. Until this happens, Trump and Trump-like leaders will find it easier to gain(and keep) power.

“Look, having nuclear — my uncle was a great professor and scientist and engineer, Dr. John Trump at MIT; good genes, very good genes, OK, very smart, the Wharton School of Finance, very good, very smart — you know, if you’re a conservative Republican, if I were a liberal, if, like, OK, if I ran as a liberal Democrat, they would say I’m one of the smartest people anywhere in the world — it’s true! — but when you’re a conservative Republican they try — oh, do they do a number — that’s why I always start off: Went to Wharton, was a good student, went there, went there, did this, built a fortune — you know I have to give my like credentials all the time, because we’re a little disadvantaged — but you look at the nuclear deal, the thing that really bothers me — it would have been so easy, and it’s not as important as these lives are — nuclear is powerful; my uncle explained that to me many, many years ago, the power and that was 35 years ago; he would explain the power of what’s going to happen and he was right, who would have thought? — but when you look at what’s going on with the four prisoners — now it used to be three, now it’s four — but when it was three and even now, I would have said it’s all in the messenger; fellas, and it is fellas because, you know, they don’t, they haven’t figured that the women are smarter right now than the men, so, you know, it’s gonna take them about another 150 years — but the Persians are great negotiators, the Iranians are great negotiators, so, and they, they just killed, they just killed us.
These are Trump's words, not Jordan Peterson's. Nice try though in your attempt to get people to associate Trump with Peterson. You are skilled, but use it in the wrong way. It seems like you work directly for a political party or a specific, prominent person of a certain U.S. Based political party from the safety of a foreign country such as England.

Are you part of the group that put together the Russia Collusion story?
 
I wasn't thinking of Peterson when I asked the question, nor have I seen his talk with Rogan.

I am noting exGOP's reticence to answer any questions related to Russian involvement in US voter-rich social media, and what, if any, laws, in Moooler's opinion, they seem to have broken.

I'm asking because he seems alacritous that Trump follow US law, and be held liable to US law, according to the standard that no one is above the law.

Sorry, I quoted yours first in error on my phone.

Muller is doing the job he was hired for. NOBODY including Trump has not agreed that Russia was not mucking about and this needs to be understood. Trump was not seriously running to win at the beginning. As his friend Howard Stern said he was trying to give a boost to the Apprentice/his profile spending a little as possible and accidentally caught the car. This was when the Mercers stepped in giving him Bannon and a lot more from Cambridge Analytica (Bannon a VP of) plus his own ability to be shameless at Olympic level.

So to understand the Russians one must allow for the fact that Russia was doing things from probably 2014 but Trump only seriously fell into their sights later. It gets messy as Trump has traditionally got money from Russians in business (money laundered through his failing casinos and several property deals), Cohen grew up deeply entrenched in the local Russian Mafia, Manafort.. unbelievable and many more.

I have a place near (what was) Trump Ocean Club Panama city, rented right now where you can see it near empty. This and many other projects laundered a lot of Russian money. Now.. what overlapped with the election? Muller's job to get to the details of that.
 
Peterson is what he is to me for now some good, some problems however I am always wary of the 'Peter principle' with such guys. They advance to their level of competence and no more until they re-invent themselves and start a new tack. Everyone does of course however where that ceiling is and how they react when they get there tells a lot of a man.

Right now Peterson is a great joy to people who's opinions and beliefs are opaque even to themselves. He says what they are trying to say, they think, Sam Harris, Hitchens etc. to varying degrees are similar. I see with Peterson (and not saying he can avoid this) a problem with guys looking for little more than troll ammo (Alt-right dopes etc). I have seen him resist this, so while he does good. Is he a truly great mind beyond a little charisma? No, however he can be entertaining at least. This may change as he hits the ceiling, in five(ish) years I would have a better idea as his celebrity is new.

If you have better or know someone who has better ideas for solutions to obvious societal issues, let's hear it.

I hoping to get more depth from those ETers who support the Left than the obvious, often repeated narrative that Jordan Peterson lacks depth and people who think he has anything worthwhile to say are stupid.

Again, if any Leftist here has a solution or depth in an counter argument to what Jordan Peterson is saying, let's hear it.
 
I keep seeing this money laundering accusation.
its like the collusion. collusion is not a crime. there has to be an underlying crime.

selling real estate to foreigners is not a crime... even if you sell a lot of it.

imo, you have to complicit in the laundering for it to be a crime.
(it may be a crime for the foreigners to not report the money to the taxing authorities in their home country or wherever... but selling real estate to them is not a crime.) So when you bought the property in Panama if you did not report where you income came from to Ireland then that my be a crime. The people who sold you the property did nothing wrong when the sold it to you. (from and American law standpoint.)
 
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I keep seeing this money laundering accusation.
its like the collusion. collusion is not a crime. there has to be an underlying crime.

selling real estate to foreigners is not a crime... even if you sell a lot of it.

imo, you have to complicit in the laundering for it to be a crime.
(it may be a crime for the foreigners to not report the money to the taxing authorities in their home country or wherever... but selling real estate to them is not a crime.) So when you bought the property in Panama if you did not report where you income came from to Ireland then that my be a crime. The people who sold you the property did nothing wrong when the sold it to you. (from and American law standpoint.)

FinCEN Fines Trump Taj Mahal Casino Resort $10 Million for Significant and Long Standing Anti-Money Laundering Violations

https://www.fincen.gov/news/news-re...casino-resort-10-million-significant-and-long

This lawerish (and you are ISH) ostrich head in sand crap is revolting.
 
did i mention casinos?
We have known about Taj Mahal issues for years.
Long before he ran.

I specifically addressed real estate.
you, piezoe and other lefties throw that accusation around all the time.


I keep pointing out that with Respect to Trump this is so far a fake issue...

In California we have FIRPTA laws and these issues about reporting income for foreigners comes up all the time.

So for you Trump is an obsession for me real estate reporting requirements are part of my work.
 
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Reply to your posts are inline below:

"Slartibartfast, post: 4667690, member: 500061"]Sorry, I quoted yours first in error on my phone.

Muller is doing the job he was hired for.
Who was ultimately behind the hiring of Mueller? Political opponents Clinton and or Jeb Bush?

NOBODY including Trump has not agreed that Russia was not mucking about and this needs to be understood.
Russia has been mucking around U.S. Politics for over a hundred years. Why now is the urgency to do something about it?

Trump was not seriously running to win at the beginning. As his friend Howard Stern said he was trying to give a boost to the Apprentice/his profile spending a little as possible and accidentally caught the car. This was when the Mercers stepped in giving him Bannon and a lot more from Cambridge Analytica (Bannon a VP of) plus his own ability to be shameless at Olympic level.

So to understand the Russians one must allow for the fact that Russia was doing things from probably 2014 but Trump only seriously fell into their sights later. It gets messy as Trump has traditionally got money from Russians in business (money laundered through his failing casinos and several property deals), Cohen grew up deeply entrenched in the local Russian Mafia, Manafort.. unbelievable and many more.
The above statement seems half-baked. What would be the motive for Trump Casinos to violate money laundering laws? What would the motive for Russian businesses or people to want to launder money?

If Russia provided loans to Trump casinos in exchange for them to look the other way with certain transactions, that would certainly qualify as motive.

If Russia needed to legitimize funds used in an attempt to influence political outcomes, that would be a motive.

Traditionally, however, Russia and the Left have been associated with each other regarding "worker's rights" and government social programs.


I have a place near (what was) Trump Ocean Club Panama city, rented right now where you can see it near empty. This and many other projects laundered a lot of Russian money. Now.. what overlapped with the election? Muller's job to get to the details of that.


"Slartibartfast, post: 4667785, member: 500061"]FinCEN Fines Trump Taj Mahal Casino Resort $10 Million for Significant and Long Standing Anti-Money Laundering Violations

https://www.fincen.gov/news/news-re...casino-resort-10-million-significant-and-long

The devil is in the details. This news release does not talk about specifics. For all we know at this point is that some Russian gamblers bought $10,000 or more casino chips either in a single transaction or several transactions that in sum exceeded the $10,000 reporting threshold.

It is hard to keep track of multiple buys of less than $10,000 over a period of days, especially when reporting requirements in those situations can be somewhat discretionary or ambiguous.


This lawerish (and you are ISH) ostrich head in sand crap is revolting.
It is important for your credibility to do your homework and report what you find. This includes recognizing you don't fully know or understand something as well as when there may be a valid counterpoint.

Anything less by someone who claims higher moral ground would indeed be revolting.

 
did i mention casinos?
We have known about Taj Mahal issues for years.
Long before he ran.

I specifically addressed real estate.
you, piezoe and other lefties throw that accusation around all the time.


I keep pointing out that with Respect to Trump this is so far a fake issue...

In California we have FIRPTA laws and these issues about reporting income for foreigners comes up all the time.

So for you Trump is an obsession for me real estate reporting requirements are part of my work.

You are semi-literate. Quite a handicap resulting in expensive errors I am certain. If you do some cheap conveyancing etc. I'd dread to be a customer, you are I'm sure one of those guys who is a genius at passing the buck for your mistakes.

So please, drop the expert in property bullshit.

He directly facilitated money laundering in the casinos. That is not old business, it was quite recent the fine. https://www.fincen.gov/news/news-re...casino-resort-10-million-significant-and-long He was fined 10m for this. The Muller investigation is likely to find a LOT more. Some may be as immoral but legal (not enough to prove/sufficient distance) as many other developments however that is not the issue.

Trump aligned his financial interest with criminals intending to launder their ill gotten gains. The Trump Ocean is known locally as Narc-O-Lago for good reason that Panamanians understand very well. Cash sales, units bought in bulk, buyers hiding identities which all just means drugs, trafficking and terrorism.

However I'm just sure if your wife saw your sleazy looking neighbor was buying "lolitas and jailbait magazine" every week you would tell her that legally he has done nothing wrong so no need to tell your daughters to avoid him.

We will see if Mueller finds anything past the usual line of immoral but technically legal. As a patriot I am certain you want to know if your president is as clean as he says he is. Think of the surge when Muller finds nothing. ;)
 
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1. talk about being literate?
you have comprehension challenges.
Where did I claim to be a property expert.
I explained this come up in my job.
I did not claim expertise.

2.

As far as the trump issue.
I specifically addressed real estate.
Your casino arguments manifest your illiteracy.

your link does not state "he was fined 10 million". Trump Taj Mahal a casino was fined, not Trump personally.

And contrary to your bullshit... this issue is old.

"Additionally, in 1998, FinCEN assessed a $477,700 civil money penalty against Trump Taj Mahal for currency transaction reporting violations."

That Casino has been in the papers for years... it had all sorts of financial and regulatory issues...

And note I am not condoning Trumps behavior. I am pointing out you either misrepresented what happened or you did not comprehend what was written.


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You are semi-literate. Quite a handicap resulting in expensive errors I am certain. If you do some cheap conveyancing etc. I'd dread to be a customer, you are I'm sure one of those guys who is a genius at passing the buck for your mistakes.

So please, drop the expert in property bullshit.

He directly facilitated money laundering in the casinos. That is not old business, it was quite recent the fine. https://www.fincen.gov/news/news-re...casino-resort-10-million-significant-and-long He was fined 10m for this. The Muller investigation is likely to find a LOT more. Some may be as immoral but legal (not enough to prove/sufficient distance) as many other developments however that is not the issue.

Trump aligned his financial interest with criminals intending to launder their ill gotten gains. The Trump Ocean is known locally as Narc-O-Lago for good reason that Panamanians understand very well. Cash sales, units bought in bulk, buyers hiding identities which all just means drugs, trafficking and terrorism.

However I'm just sure if your wife saw your sleazy looking neighbor was buying "lolitas and jailbait magazine" every week you would tell her that legally he has done nothing wrong so no need to tell your daughters to avoid him.

We will see if Mueller finds anything past the usual line of immoral but technically legal. As a patriot I am certain you want to know if your president is as clean as he says he is. Think of the surge when Muller finds nothing. ;)
 
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