Trump real estate deal looks awfully like criminal tax fraud

What everyone seems to not take into consideration is that Trump Org has lawyers on staff. I am sure that he also has a least one in-house CPA. He would also have outside CPAs, real estate and tax attorneys. In other words, he had a team of CPAs and attorneys. These CPAs and attorneys are there not only to mitigate risk but to also find creative legal structures.

Everyone including journalists look at all of this from their limited perspective as if they did the transaction themselves. Does the journalist have a team of CPAs and attorneys? Does the journalist have any real estate experience? It is just ridiculous.

It is highly unlikely that Trump did anything wrong with respect to this transaction. Now, if an ordinary person did it, that probably wouldn't be the case because they most likely wouldn't have team of CPAs and lawyers.
Actually I'm looking at it from the standpoint of Donald Trump, Gangster and pathological liar, and wondering if there is a form 709 for tax year 2016 with the Eric Trump gift listed on it, and how a group of 17 attorneys including money laundering experts, tax experts, and prosecutors might look at that filing if there is no form 709 with the name Eric Trump as a recipient on it. It is implied by the O.P. that because of the way the transaction was treated in 2016 State and local filings, there is likely no such 709 form in the 2016 filing with the transaction characterized as a gift.

Its doubtful Trump would face a fraud charge for failure to file form 709 on the gift. He'd just have to correct his filing, but if he tried to claim a loss on the transaction rather than characterizing it as gift, he could be in hot water up to his little dick. If his tax "advisor" were to testify under oath that they advised Trump to file a 709 on the transaction, but Trump told them to characterize the transaction otherwise, then he could be in hot water up to his arm pits.
 
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you lefties are reduced to wondering about taxes being paid on a sale or sale plus gift to his son. You don't even know if he did anything wrong.

Would you care if Barry hooked up Malia with a cheap house in chicago.

Democrats are the party of hate with zero ideas they can share with white people or tax payers.
 
you lefties are reduced to wondering about taxes being paid on a sale or sale plus gift to his son. You don't even know if he did anything wrong.

Would you care if Barry hooked up Malia with a cheap house in chicago.

Democrats are the party of hate with zero ideas they can share with white people or tax payers.

The irony is delicious
 
Actually I'm looking at it from the standpoint of Donald Trump, Gangster and pathological liar, and wondering if there is a form 709 for tax year 2016 with the Eric Trump gift listed on it, and how a group of 17 attorneys including money laundering experts, tax experts, and prosecutors might look at that filing if there is no form 709 with the name Eric Trump as a recipient on it. I think that there may be no such form for 2016 is the implication here.

Its doubtful Trump would face a fraud charge for failure to file form 709 on the gift. He'd just have to correct his filing, but if he tried to claim a loss on the transaction rather than characterizing it as gift, he could be in hot water up to his little dick. If his tax "advisor" were to testify under oath that they advised Trump to file a 709 on the transaction, but Trump told them to characterize the transaction otherwise, then he could be in hot water up to his arm pits.


Trump could also have just been in the deal for $350k, handed the property over to his son for that and Eric could've assumed the loan, no? So no loss, no gift. Just Trump getting rid of a property he was having trouble selling, to his son, yeah?

There's really too many variables in this equation to be honest. We have not seen the real estate sales contract and master real estate moguls like them could've been doing all sorts of things in this transaction.
 
Trump could also have just been in the deal for $350k, handed the property over to his son for that and Eric could've assumed the loan, no? So no loss, no gift. Just Trump getting rid of a property he was having trouble selling, to his son, yeah?

There's really too many variables in this equation to be honest. We have not seen the real estate sales contract and master real estate moguls like them could've been doing all sorts of things in this transaction.
Agreed. It could be a legit transaction, assuming Trump acquired the condo in a legit, arms length transaction for $350 from a disinterested party. What are the chances of that? Maybe barely finite at best. When you do "all sorts of things in a transaction" that has the aroma of 4 day old fish it would seem the opportunity and the chance that something was done that goes beyond clever all the way to illegal go up in proportion to the number of things done and the strength of the aroma. If you were to throw into that mix of all sorts of things, a gangster that has been sued over 4000 times, had four bankruptcies, been sued successfully for fraud, has a well established reputation as a liar, is a member of the Professional Wrestling Hall of Fame, and then add in that the transaction involved a member of the Gangster's immediate family, wouldn't you expect the odds of something illegal having been done to go up considerably?
 
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Actually I'm looking at it from the standpoint of Donald Trump, Gangster and pathological liar, and wondering if there is a form 709 for tax year 2016 with the Eric Trump gift listed on it, and how a group of 17 attorneys including money laundering experts, tax experts, and prosecutors might look at that filing if there is no form 709 with the name Eric Trump as a recipient on it. It is implied by the O.P. that because of the way the transaction was treated in 2016 State and local filings, there is likely no such 709 form in the 2016 filing with the transaction characterized as a gift.

Its doubtful Trump would face a fraud charge for failure to file form 709 on the gift. He'd just have to correct his filing, but if he tried to claim a loss on the transaction rather than characterizing it as gift, he could be in hot water up to his little dick. If his tax "advisor" were to testify under oath that they advised Trump to file a 709 on the transaction, but Trump told them to characterize the transaction otherwise, then he could be in hot water up to his arm pits.
The properties were not owned by Donald and sold to Eric. From what I have read so far, that is not correct.

Again, you are looking at it totally from your laymen perspective. A laymen that doesn't have what is most likely hundreds if not thousands of entities domiciled or incorporated all over the world with a team of CPAs and lawyers. A laymen that doesn't own billions in RE assets.

The properties where transferred from one entity to another entity. Why did that happen? Is Donald Trump a member of both LLCs? Just because Donald is manager of one entity and Eric is the manager of the other entity doesn't mean that Donald isn't a member of both entities. Besides the manager can be replaced. Just replace Donald as the manager and boom there you go. Donald could be the majority member of both entities regardless of who is the manager. Donald could be the 55% member of both entities. The membership structure in both entities could be identical. It is very possible that Donald was the manager of many LLCs and had to replaced as the manager when he became president. Perhaps the low selling price really wasn't a selling price but the properties were transferred at the cost basis to another entity. There are a ton of potential legitimate reasons for the properties to be transferred from one entity to another. I can list some of them for you if you wish.

The article assumes and probably falsely that Donald sold the properties to Eric. All that is known is that the properties were transferred from one entity to another.

None of the above is even apparently crossing your mind due to you blatant ignorance.

Why does it have to be a gift?

Furthermore, according to the article the properties were not owned by Donald. They were owned by a company. It was owned by a LLC and trasferred to another LLC.

Again, this is a great example of a completely ignorant journalist writing an article that they know nothing about and implying that something nefarious happened. In other words, the author is just completely making shit up and so are you.

At this point, this is simply a conspiracy theory.

I didn't waste my time reading the article. I just read some of the post.

However, the following is completely misleading: "but two months before the sale to Eric Trump’s LLC".

It is not Eric Trump's LLC. That is not what any person with any knowledge of LLCs would state. A person would state that Eric is the managing member. Who are the members of the LLC and at what are the member's percentages? Also, Eric may now be the managing member of all of the Trump Org entities. Does that mean that they are now all his entities and he owns all of Trump real estate? No, it does not.

It is probably advisable that you stop making comments regarding RE transactions.
 
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