Trump puts it DOWN. GTFO and get in line like the rest. Criminals and Welfare Leeches = GONE

CaptainObvious said:
In a traditional election you'd be correct. This one isn't traditional. What Trump needs is the predominately white, rarely/never vote crowd to come out and vote. He gets that, and it's over from a purely popular vote count. He'll win by several million votes. Electorally? That's another story altogether.
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Captain I know ur not a big trump supporter. From an outsiders viewpoint looking in, what's not to like about trumps immigration policy ? Why is border security a bad thing ?
 
achilles28 said:
Captain I know ur not a big trump supporter. From an outsiders viewpoint looking in, what's not to like about trumps immigration policy ? Why is border security a bad thing ?
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I don't see anything bad about enhanced border security. It's an absolute imperative to get an handle on the problem. I just think the point can be made without all the fluff about gigantic walls and who will pay for it.
 
CaptainObvious said:
In a traditional election you'd be correct. This one isn't traditional. What Trump needs is the predominately white, rarely/never vote crowd to come out and vote. He gets that, and it's over from a purely popular vote count. He'll win by several million votes. Electorally? That's another story altogether.
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I think all these white republican voters not voting is a huge myth.Democrats have won the popular vote in 5 out of the last 6 Presidential elections.If they haven't come out in all that time they aren't coming out and many of them are dead now.

The last time a candidate has won the Presidency with less than 40 % of the Hispanic vote was 2000,imo that's the last time a candidate will win the Presidency with less than 40 % of the Hispanic vote.The % of white voters is smaller now and the % of Hispanic voters is higher so now a candidate needs more than 40%.
 
fhl said:
Romney got 27% of Hispanic vote and Trump's at 32% according to Gallup.

Romney got 17% of black vote and Trump, while there have been some headlines blaring that he gets no support from blacks, there are also polls like the one in N Carolina that show he has 30% of the black vote in that state.

And if you're white, you have to be a real dumbass to vote for Clinton.
And more white voters will be going to the polls.
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Romney got 5 -6 % of the black vote.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/139880/election-polls-presidential-vote-groups.aspx

http://ropercenter.cornell.edu/polls/us-elections/how-groups-voted/how-groups-voted-2012/
 
fhl said:
Romney got 27% of Hispanic vote and Trump's at 32% according to Gallup.

Romney got 17% of black vote and Trump, while there have been some headlines blaring that he gets no support from blacks, there are also polls like the one in N Carolina that show he has 30% of the black vote in that state.

And if you're white, you have to be a real dumbass to vote for Clinton.
And more white voters will be going to the polls.
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Can you post a link to that poll? Trump would be slaughtering Hillary in NC is that were true.


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achilles28 said:
How is it possible that trump has almost zero black support yet is nearly tied with Hillary in most polls. Same with Hispanics. Makes zero sense.
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It makes perfect sense.

Trump is not nearly tied with Hillary in the polls.Hillary is ahead in around 29 of the last 30 RCP polls.Hillary's RCP average is + 5 points.In 2012 Obama's RCP average was in the + 1 to + 3 point range most of the time .Obama's final RCP average was only + 0.7 but he won by + 4 (RCP polls skew heavily toward the Republican candidate).

Hillarys RCP average is nearly twice what Obamas was and increased Hispanic and Black support is part of the reason.Obama proved to be 3 points higher than The RCP average and Hillary probably is too.
 
CaptainObvious said:
I don't see anything bad about enhanced border security. It's an absolute imperative to get an handle on the problem. I just think the point can be made without all the fluff about gigantic walls and who will pay for it.
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Great. So we're on the same page.

Divide and conquer. They want us squabbling over minutia details, he said she said nonsense, instead of focused on general direction

Hillary is for open borders, zero border security, amnesty

Trump is for secure borders, zero amnesty And deporting criminal aliens.

Seems an easy choice.
 
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