Trump: Pope's comment disgraceful

jem said:
I don't think Jesus would want to leave a people open to terrorists and their attacks if they could prevent it either.
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Sure, but it's clear that helping comes first. What was it he said about turning the other cheek? About giving your coat too? About having no worry for tomorrow? He wouldn't let fear stop Him from doing the right thing. I seriously doubt he'd support building a wall.
 
jem said:
but now lets get back to the point.. Trump was right, and we were right. The Pope or the Vatican walked it back.

Which is becoming a pattern with the Vatican and this Pope.
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They haven't walked it back, they've stated they may not have been honestly told what Trump actually said about building a wall (and the deportations). But when they do hear what Trump has actually said about those, and more, there is no chance they'll say Trump IS a Christian.
 
not a walkback...
sure.

let me take you back to your standards...
is Obama a Christian... if your answer is yes.
then Trump is a Christian by your standards too.

By my standards... I don't care... its between God and them.
But I have my doubts -- more about one than the other... but my doubts don't rally matter.

As to whether they are NBC... that I know for sure we don't really know because the court has not defined NBC.

A man's got to know his limitations.



Ricter said:
They haven't walked it back, they've stated they may not have been honestly told what Trump actually said about building a wall (and the deportations). But when they do hear what Trump has actually said about those, and more, there is no chance they'll say Trump IS a Christian.
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gwb-trading said:
Would Jesus kick the Girl Scouts out of Catholic Churches?

Archdiocese of St. Louis officially cuts ties with an organization it says has become "incompatible" with Catholic teaching - the Girl Scouts
http://www.stltoday.com/lifestyles/...cle_3615864c-8199-56ec-b93d-b7317732f951.html
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Lol, I don't think Jesus kicked the Girl Scouts out of the Catholic Church. But the GSUSA has over the years tilted way way left, openly embracing LBG-transgenderism and partnered with Planned Parenthood.
Not really in the main stream theology of Catholicism or Main stream Evangelicals
 
Ricter said:
I think Jesus's compassion would be fully present even when considering problems at the national level. I don't think Jesus would build a wall.
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I don't think Jesus would build a wall, but Jesus ain't here. Certainly not here in the flesh and while there's plenty of talk about having Jesus in our hearts, I ain't seeing much of that from either party.
 
how about a veil between the people and the holy of holies except on the day of atonement or around the temple.
Oops, perhaps not the best example on its face huh. but on careful reflection... Jesus is the bridge the and the Pope is always saying bridges not walls.

but then we are talking about spirtual things here.

As I said... the pope was confused as is anyone who thinks that bigger govt and more govt giveaways is the answer to solving a mal distribution of opportunities for a better life.

gwb-trading said:
Would Jesus have supported building a wall around the center of his church, the Vatican.

A wall, by the way, that was built due to fear.
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is it really true that political self interest is nobler than poltical self interest?

If we really want to help the world. We should get rid of big govt, get rid of socialists and allow the markets to free up the productivity of the people.

As I have been saying having a helping society is far more more complicated and should be reserved for those who can think in systems.

Are we doing mexicans justice by letting some of move here or should we be putting pressure on the govt to improve things in their own country.

 
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