Trump plans to sign EO ending birthright citizenship

[Poindexter]

More likes than posts just like Xela lads. Remember that boys. You will kick yourselves.

Time to eat your words, fatboy.

Time to prove that I'm legit, you're a fraud and get you banned in the process.

I'm glad you brought up Xela. Destriero vetted me and outed Xela. Baron offered to verify/authenticate Xela, but Xela didn't take him up. But I'll be happy to have Baron vet me.

You claimed in your thread Millions made, much of the world seen, what now? that you "can make a half million bucks a month now trading futures." I call bullshit and say you're a fraud.

If you're not a fraud, send the paltry sum of $100K to Baron ($90K of which will be donated to the NRA and $10K for Baron's trouble) and I'll fly down to see Baron in person -- at my expense -- with the documents I posted for Destriero and three forms of federal ID to prove they're mine. I'll also bring my personnel records on microfiche as further proof nothing's been faked.

If I fail to show up or prove myself, I'm banned for life and Baron returns your money. If I do go and check out, Baron keeps his $10K, sends the remainder to the NRA, and you're banned for life.

 

[TJustice]

I already know the answer as I am sure you do too. The answer is we don't really know and we need the Supreme Court to rule on this... just like they need to rule on Natural Born Citizen. Not just because of Obama (they should leave the past out and make a prospective ruling) but because of people like Ted Cruz and the fact we now have millions of Anchor babies, one of whom may one day run for President. Let's be responsible and give them so guidance ahead of time.

I don't feel like giving my full opinion on this because I would have to explain things to the lefty trolls after they start off with their insults. .. so I just cited wikipedia.

You and Usual Name do at least at times deserve thoughtful and thought out answers because even your propaganda is intriguing... the foreign trolls on this board do not.

Wiki is correct! I may be wrong about this but I believe there was a more recent ruling in a California District Court since Ark. You're a lawyer. Can you find the ruling for us?

There is no such thing as an anchor baby if that term is meant to imply that a child born here regardless of the parents status is automatically a citizen, as many on the radical right seem to think. That should be obvious to all, since the DACA folks would not be under threat of deportation were they automatically citizens by virtue of being born here. Many DACA young adults were not actually born in the US but were brought here at a very young age and grew up here. They are clearly not citizens, but neither are DACA people that were born here to parents that were here on Visas or here illegally.

There really isn't an "anchor baby problem", there is a DACA problem. And that should not be a problem. Common sense says that we would find a way to citizenship for these folks, but at the same time start rigidly enforcing visas and cracking down on illegal entry. The latterwe already started doing under Obama. Trump has simply exploited and clouded the definition of anchor babies and used this issue to instill divisiveness. When it comes to Trump, one could say there is a CACA problem!

The Ark case involved a child born to permanent residents. Since then, children born to permanent residents have always been U.S. Citizens. I recall reading that a much more recent case brought in a California District Court involved parents here on valid visas or here illegally. But if I read that here in a ET forum than all bets are off as to its reliability.

 

[CaptainObvious]

Leftists' ultimate agenda is to abolish the Second Amendment. So I'm against any changes.

Most of the time they're subtle and try to erode it little by little.

"I believe there are more instances of the abridgement of the freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments of those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations." - James Madison

But every now and then they come right out and say it. Like Justice Stevens did:


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I would agree in part that "radical" leftists would like to abolish the second amendment, hell they'd like to abolish the entire constitution. And yes, the mainstream left continues to pander and make excuses for the most extreme elements of their base, so I get the dig in and never give an inch attitude. This however does not bring us together as a nation and solves no problems. Hey, I'm a unapologetic pessimist at this point. The tipping point has past, there's no way things turn out well. The only question is how hard will the crash be.

 

[CaptainObvious]

I agree with being skeptical. But there is no upside in being cynical.

You're absolutely correct. It's just that I don't see any upside at all in the body politic scene. It's too far gone. Some things just aren't fixable and now must run their course. Consequences my friend, actions have consequences. We've been putting them off with this shell game for decades. Just can't last.

 

[Slartibartfast]

Time to eat your words, fatboy.

Time to prove that I'm legit, you're a fraud and get you banned in the process.

I'm glad you brought up Xela. Destriero vetted me and outed Xela. Baron offered to verify/authenticate Xela, but Xela didn't take him up. But I'll be happy to have Baron vet me.

You claimed in your thread Millions made, much of the world seen, what now? that you "can make a half million bucks a month now trading futures." I call bullshit and say you're a fraud.

If you're not a fraud, send the paltry sum of $100K to Baron ($90K of which will be donated to the NRA and $10K for Baron's trouble) and I'll fly down to see Baron in person -- at my expense -- with the documents I posted for Destriero and three forms of federal ID to prove they're mine. I'll also bring my personnel records on microfiche as further proof nothing's been faked.

If I fail to show up or prove myself, I'm banned for life and Baron returns your money. If I do go and check out, Baron keeps his $10K, sends the remainder to the NRA, and you're banned for life.

Or.. I hire a Pi and get some pics. There is nothing you can't fake for that money. Digital images are bollocks. You do love your photo alteration. The only person here who does that.

That was fast, you actually do write posts out on advance in word or some other note organiser ready to paste.

 

[Frederick Foresight]

And yes, the mainstream left continues to pander and make excuses for the most extreme elements of their base, so I get the dig in and never give an inch attitude.

I'mm not kidding when I say that I think you're looking at things through a mirror. So if your hair is parted on the left, it looks like it's parted on the right, and so on...

 

[Poindexter]

Or.. I hire a Pi and get some pics. There is nothing you can't fake for that money. Digital images are bollocks. You do love your photo alteration. The only person here who does that.

That was fast, you actually do write posts out on advance in word or some other note organiser ready to paste.

No digital images; original documents and I don't get a penny.

Just like I thought... you're a fraud. And a coward.

P.S. I already posted it TWICE. Don't pretend you didn't see it.

 

[Frederick Foresight]

You're absolutely correct. It's just that I don't see any upside at all in the body politic scene. It's too far gone. Some things just aren't fixable and now must run their course. Consequences my friend, actions have consequences. We've been putting them off with this shell game for decades. Just can't last.

There is an element of truth in what you say. But you cannot deny that Trump has exacerbated the problem by intentionally deepening the division for his own entertainment.

 

[CaptainObvious]

I'mm not kidding when I say that I think you're looking at things through a mirror. So if your hair is parted on the left, it looks like it's parted on the right, and so on...

Yes, I'll acknowledge that the republicans do the same sort of pandering and appeasement. It just seems to me that the democrats are more blatant about it.

 

[CaptainObvious]

There is an element of truth in what you say. But you cannot deny that Trump has exacerbated the problem by intentionally deepening the division for his own entertainment.

Trump has exacerbated the problems by shoving them in everyone's face for a good hard look at the shit storm called Washington D.C. Is he amusing himself with it all? Probably. He is not doing this in a vacuum. Lot's of other participants adding to the circus environment, not the least of which are the talking heads fanning the flames 24/7. None the less, these problems need to be addressed and it's going to be a tough pill for everyone to swallow.