Trump Is Right About Birth Citizenship

[piezoe]

the funniest thing I saw on the news today was Trump standing at the podium reading the New York Times and laughing about what was written about him.

Trump reminds me of Jesse Ventura

and Jessie Ventura reminds me of Charlie Ventura, the great tenor sax man that played with Gene Krupa

enjoy

Listen to Krupa's wonderful dynamic range! Young drummers and today's politicians could learn much from Krupa.

 

[Ricter]

Just a warning that I may have got Hobbes and Locke a bit muddled up, as it has been years since I studied them. And naturally it was Hobbes who influenced Locke, as Hobbes was an old man when Locke was a young man.

It is curious to me that both had their thoughts somewhat muddled by religion, Locke more so than Hobbes. I think Hobbes today would be an atheist, and if I recall correctly, he was even accused of such in his lifetime. I'm not sure the meaning was quite the same in those days. Anyway, it was a time when any prominent person who strayed too far from conventional religious practice and beliefs would be putting their freedom, and perhaps even their life, in jeopardy. We still have many today whose thinking gets all muddled up by religion. Will we ever be free of it? Not certainly in my generation. At least the cutting of tongues, drowning, and burning at stakes has largely abated within the Christian sects.

Hobbes recognized that the divine right of kings would no longer serve as a rationale for the power of the monarch. Too much social disorder and war had attended religion's history, and there was no sign that would change in the future.

 

[gwb-trading]

Have we reached the point that anyone who speaks so sensibly as you has no chance of obtaining political office? It seems that all the electorate wants to hear is wild exaggeration and absurdity, and the more outrageous the better they like it.

There is a reason why more people vote in reality shows than in presidential elections.

 

[jem]

it is much easier to be a fan locke. perhaps I think I am Locke (classical) liberal or a Locke libertarian. I will have to go back and read him to be sure. I know I was fascinated by his writings in college (and his pen name's writing - although there was tension between the two if I recall) I am pretty sure Jefferson was a big fan of Locke and I find myself gravitating towards Jefferson's positions.

Just for accuracy's sake I think that evolving I attributed to Hobbes was actually Locke, who was heavily influenced by Hobbes. It's been years since I read either Hobbes or Locke so I hope you'll forgive me if I get the two confused sometimes. they together laid the foundations for modern Liberal thinking. Hobbes of course was obedient to the monarchy. (What else could you be at that time if you wanted to keep your head.)

 

[wjk]

Have we reached the point that anyone who speaks so sensibly as you has no chance of obtaining political office? It seems that all the electorate wants to hear is wild exaggeration and absurdity, and the more outrageous the better they like it.

It's just a big game show now. That's how many voters like it these days. I think it would be awesome if the debates were presented in the fashion of "the gong show", moderated by none other than Chuck Barris himself.

 

[wjk]

Below is an interview that took place between Mark Levin and Gary McDowell, author of "The Language of Laws and the Foundations of American Constitutionalism." They discuss the philosophies of Locke and Hobbes.

 

[achilles28]

I hope they round up and deport the illegals. By force, if necessary. America isn't some whore to be used and abused. Nobody owes the Mexicans jack. Least of all, citizenship. They've parasitically fed off the generiousity of Americans for many decades now and have the audacity to call those racist who would deport their asses for breaking laws and being a drain on the system.

It's time to wear the pants and let the freeloaders know who runs this country. The illegals are a good start.

 

[achilles28]

Trump isn't perfect. He's soft on the Constitution, and that deeply troubles me. However, he's the best we got, atm. Like Reagan said, take half the loaf, go back and ask for more.

 

[Spike Trader]

it is much easier to be a fan locke. perhaps I think I am Locke (classical) liberal or a Locke libertarian.

Jem is a widely read person and that's why i admire him so much,


you guys here on ET should pay more attention to his writings..

 

[BSAM]

Trump isn't perfect. He's soft on the Constitution, and that deeply troubles me.

But, this could actually turn into a great plus for the country.
I look at it like this...Obama did what he wanted with no regard for the law or the Constitution.
Since Trump and Obama are complete opposites, Trump can disregard the law and the Constitution and reverse all the communist bullshit Obama has put into play.
Could turn out really good and quick.