Trump Approval Rating Plummeting Even Among White Voters In Fox News Poll

[Slartibartfast]

Alright, good. The Cato report was a good read. It places the false positive number quite a bit lower than you suggested but - whatever- it laid the issues out in an organized way.

Roughly 0.15 percent of all E-Verify queries result in a false “final non-confirmation.”

Looks like there is even a greater problem too with ineligibles coming back as eligible. People shovel a bunch of false documentation into the system but once they are branded as eligible, e-verify then becomes their go-to friend for the rest of their life.

Be interesting to see how it goes in the states that are starting to link the photo from the dmv over to the database.

Part of this dilemma is that both the conservatives and the liberals oppose a national identity card which would put an end to a lot of this bullshit. The conservatives don't want it- not all, some are 100% in favor- because it is allegedly a Big Brother thing. But then they end out supporting all this incremental big brother database stuff in the background which attempts to accomplish the same thing. The libs of course oppose it because lots of their folks are illegals and they would not qualify for a national identity card.

Full disclosure: I am 110% in favor of a national identity card. And yes I know what libertarians say about that but if I want a friend, I will get a dog.

The system has been improving and my friend assures me that it is worse that that in his experience but variance is expected on state and demographic. He gave me the 2% figure, perhaps that was 2014 or initial error. Still 180k+ legit citizens a year having their lived possibly ruined is not ok, not just a few broken eggs.

Yes, the principle of no mandatory single identity cards is shared with the UK, Ireland, OZ, NZ etc. All are drifting in the direction of mandatory ID, a European Napoleonic system where the individual citizen is below the state. Guilty until proven innocent etc. The subtleties are beyond the education and intellect/interest of the average person in modern days so used to privacy being treated loosely online.

Be careful what you give up without understanding how it will be in 30 years but that does not mean change does not have to happen with exponential population growth.

My experience of living in US, UK, Ireland, Australia and New Zealand has been the USA has the worst legal system & cops, Australia next and the remaining, pretty ok & respectful. I would hate to have UK cops being the bossy assholes I've seen in the US and Oz (not as bad). Scale may play a part in the psychology, Australia is the size of the continental USA.

Other's experience will be different.

 

[TreeFrogTrader]

The system has been improving and my friend assures me that it is worse that that in his experience but variance is expected on state and demographic. He gave me the 2% figure, perhaps that was 2014 or initial error. Still 180k+ legit citizens a year having their lived possibly ruined is not ok, not just a few broken eggs.

Yes, the principle of no mandatory single identity cards is shared with the UK, Ireland, OZ, NZ etc. All are drifting in the direction of mandatory ID, a European Napoleonic system where the individual citizen is below the state. Guilty until proven innocent etc. The subtleties are beyond the education and intellect/interest of the average person in modern days so used to privacy being treated loosely online.

Be careful what you give up without understanding how it will be in 30 years but that does not mean change does not have to happen with exponential population growth.

My experience of living in US, UK, Ireland, Australia and New Zealand has been the USA has the worst legal system & cops, Australia next and the remaining, pretty ok & respectful. I would hate to have UK cops being the bossy assholes I've seen in the US and Oz (not as bad).

Other's experience will be different.

No doubt the American cops trying to be superior with you, does not mix and match well with your trying to be superior to them. I am sure that you have at least some insight into this.

 

[Slartibartfast]

No doubt the American cops trying to be superior with you, does not mix and match well with your trying to be superior to them. I am sure that you have at least some insight into this.

It is more about them prowling for tickets to hit targets. I was respectful but I was not being taken advantage of. I had three encounters with US cops when I backpacked & drove around the US in the late 90s in just three months (Edited: actually, in the first six weeks, I was on a farm for a month). I've never spoken to a cop in Ireland in my life. Once I was stopped to be politely advised one front main beam was blown in England.

When cops see the man on the street as a source of revenue.. problems.

 

[Bugsy]

I’m always willing to learn new things but the “multiple streams” theory of the political process tells us there is only a short window of opportunity to pass major legislation. Without public support politicians are hard pressed to get their ideas through the agenda phase.

You’ll notice the popularity of the affordable care act is at an all time high as republicans failed to repeal it. Their failure is not an accident.

You're basing this on what? Polls conducted by the same pollsters that said Hillary would win in a landslide? That BREXIT wouldn't happen?

So you think people are gung ho about ACA that is doubling and tripling their premiums? How about now that no more tax backed subsidies will be flowing into them to help support this turd legislation that was shoved down America's throat DESPITE the fact that it had almost universal opposition from both the American people and Republicans? How does that tie in with your

Without public support politicians are hard pressed to get their ideas through the agenda phase.

http://dailysignal.com/2010/03/22/new-cnn-poll-59-oppose-obamacare/

You were right about one thing...

Their failure is not an accident.

It was a sabotage by the RINO's like McCain and Murkowski. It had absolutely nothing to do with "public support" considering both McCain and Murkowski both ran on REPEALING Obamacare, and the repeal lost by one vote. This fact alone shatters your entire premise, and your premise that legislation has one iota to do with public opinion rather than dollar bills.

 

[piezoe]

Doesn't matter, when it's election time, a child raping pedo could be the Republican nominee and all he had to say would be WHAT ABOUT X and all these Cons will vote for the pedo.

In fact, they already did.

I fear you are right.

 

[UsualName]

You're basing this on what? Polls conducted by the same pollsters that said Hillary would win in a landslide? That BREXIT wouldn't happen?

So you think people are gung ho about ACA that is doubling and tripling their premiums? How about now that no more tax backed subsidies will be flowing into them to help support this turd legislation that was shoved down America's throat DESPITE the fact that it had almost universal opposition from both the American people and Republicans? How does that tie in with your



http://dailysignal.com/2010/03/22/new-cnn-poll-59-oppose-obamacare/

You were right about one thing...



It was a sabotage by the RINO's like McCain and Murkowski. It had absolutely nothing to do with "public support" considering both McCain and Murkowski both ran on REPEALING Obamacare, and the repeal lost by one vote. This fact alone shatters your entire premise, and your premise that legislation has one iota to do with public opinion rather than dollar bills.

If repeal were popular in places like Alaska and Maine it would have been repealed. Just because McCain cast the deciding vote doesn’t mean that was the actual vote count. There were plenty of other senators that didn’t want repeal to pass, they got cover from McCain.

The biggest issues Americans want to stay in place are coverage for pre-existing conditions and Medicaid expansion. There are a lot of other things that can be done within ACA but removing those two provisions are politically dangerous for republicans.

You say the aca was
Forced down your throat, but Obama was out campaigning for it, having open discussions on tv and the congress had hearings in regular order. The result was the legislation had public support at the time.

You’re going to drive yourself nuts if you think republican politicians are going to do politically unpopular things. They need to go out and sell this stuff, not draft these bills in back rooms and hide the legislation until the last minute.

I suggest you pay closer attention to the process and less to what you hear pundits saying on tv.

 

[CaptainObvious]

You can always tell the level of leftist panic by the number of posts from the resident retards. In the end, all investigations lead back to Clinton corruption, democratic collusion, Obama administration, FBI and Justice department tampering, and the usual suspects in media. The wheels are coming off and all they do is peddle faster. The party of intellectuals.

 

[TreeFrogTrader]

The biggest issues Americans want to stay in place are coverage for pre-existing conditions and Medicaid expansion. There are a lot of other things that can be done within ACA but removing those two provisions are politically dangerous for republicans.

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Which demonstrates what a needless nightmare the country has been put through with this overblown, convoluted program.

Instead of something like Obamacare, McCain's plan offered protection for pre-existing conditions and allowing then subsidies for people just go off and buy their own plan. How many times have we been around the barn to just come back to that, which as you say, is at the core of what people wanted. Then once Obamacare was adopted, people started saying that the pre-existing condition thing that what they really liked and they were falsely believed that the whole Obamacare monstrosity was the only way they could get it. You mentioned Maine. Maine, for example already had guaranteed issue for pre-existing conditions and Washington state too, I believe.

Then you mentioned that Medicaid expansion was popular. Well, Medicaid is Medicaid. It is flat out single payor and could have just been voted as a stand alone without the rest of the confusing monstrosity. Obamacare added absolutely no design or delivery improvements to Medicaid, just money. So the two things that people liked the most, really were not creatures of Obamacare and could have been voted on outside of obamare. All the complicated, convoluted stuff that Obamacare created is the source of all the factors that were/are hated.

Incidently, before people start throwing the obligatory darts alleging that I am saying something from Breibart or whatever, take the time to note that no one sees the points I am making more clearly than Bernard Sanders. His proposal for single payer is basically just a Medicaid (not medicare) For All plan. He is saying that is the only part that people on the left like (which includes pre-existing) is the single payer piece and the rest of obamare is just a convoluted mess scheduled to implode anyway.

Of course this was always part of the lefty plan anyway. The plan was "democrats and some others may not be ready for single payer now, but they will be after eight years of Obamacare they will be." Well, here we are. A big problem for republicans for sure BUT an even bigger problem for the DNC and its next crop of drones. Bernie is out there campaigning every day and has never stopped and he is willing to take the whole democratic party down to leave a legacy of being "the founder of American single payer health care."

 

[TreeFrogTrader]

It is more about them prowling for tickets to hit targets. I was respectful but I was not being taken advantage of. I had three encounters with US cops when I backpacked & drove around the US in the late 90s in just three months (Edited: actually, in the first six weeks, I was on a farm for a month). I've never spoken to a cop in Ireland in my life. Once I was stopped to be politely advised one front main beam was blown in England.

When cops see the man on the street as a source of revenue.. problems.

Well, if you start having flashbacks or anything we are here for you.

Please keep in mind though that since the election our therapy dogs are stretched pretty thin these days.

 

[Slartibartfast]

Well, if you start having flashbacks or anything we are here for you.

Please keep in mind though that since the election our therapy dogs are stretched pretty thin these days.

Think it was the cops who needed the therapy dogs.

An uncle Tom like yourself, whipped your life by the man and all would not expect to be treated with respect by authority or have the guts to do more than look at your feet. You rationalise being lorded over and shaken down as a good thing. If I was born in the US, I'd be in the similar situation I guess.

Get a passport, see the world for a couple of years and you might be less complacent.