Trump Approval Rating Plummeting Even Among White Voters In Fox News Poll

Sorry, I have no time to waste on someone who will say that Trump is corrupt because of firing Comey, but all the many things that have surrounded the Clintons since the dawn of time, are ignored when considering the Clintons. When you ask me to waste time proving a generally accepted principle, then I realize you're less interested in honest debate, and more interested in forcing a narrative. When someone refuses to have an honest debate, there will never be any progress in that debate. Thus, best to cut losses.

Asking for any evidence seems like a reasonable request to me when someone makes an allegation. If you have no evidence you shouldn’t make the allegations any more.

You are in fact falsely accusing Hillary Clinton. I know it’s not popular to defend her but I have never seen one piece of evidence she is guilty of any crimes. And I’m that kind of person, either you’re right or you’re wrong.

I’m not saying she is a good person or that she has never done anything wrong, but truly high level illegal, nah. There’s no evidence of any of it.
 
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I'd pay to see Treefrog picking strawberries for a season see how great he thinks it is.


Excuse but perhaps you do not realize that I grew up as a poor farm boy in Maine. As a small boy, I learned quite early how rough the life could be. Seeing my best friend/s mother swinging from the rafters in the barn was a small sign.

Don't be so sure about what I think and what I don't think. Quite possibly I have a better idea of what I think than you do.
 
Excuse but perhaps you do not realize that I grew up as a poor farm boy in Maine. As a small boy, I learned quite early how rough the life could be. Seeing my best friend/s mother swinging from the rafters in the barn was a small sign.

Don't be so sure about what I think and what I don't think. Quite possibly I have a better idea of what I think than you do.

Fair, I knew I was open to that. I've seen the hard side myself, I don't take it lightly.

Still, do you see American agriculture being economical without near slavery? Robots maybe will put humans out of the fields but not sure that is better.

Its difficult to stomach how so many disregard the labor and suffering their cozy lives depend on when calling for migrants to be treated as lowly opportunists.
 
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This is why the republicans can’t pass any significant legislation.

If you think this is how government works then you clearly have zero understanding of government.

First off, the "majority" hails from about 3 states. Under your lackadaisical logic 3 states should be governing 47 states. Hence, the reason for the electoral college. No one wants socialist retards in California governing America when they can't even govern their own budget and have an infrastructure crisis of epic proportion brewing.

Second, you might need to brush up on your understanding of civics. The "Democratic Republic" is not ruled by the "people". It is ruled by a handful of political professionals who sell their votes to the highest bidder. This is why you have the current state of affairs where RINO's sell out to the open borders advocates, big Pharm, and Big banking industry. This is why they are currently at odds with Trump, because his agenda is going the opposite direction. Reducing cheap/ illegal immigration hurts big business. That's just one of many reason.

Boiling it down to a retarded discussion of "the people and their will" when it is actually TPTB shows an incredible amount of naivety.
 
Asking for any evidence seems like a reasonable request to me when someone makes an allegation. If you have no evidence you shouldn’t make the allegations any more.

You are in fact falsely accusing Hillary Clinton. I know it’s not popular to defend her but I have never seen one piece of evidence she is guilty of any crimes. And I’m that kind of person, either you’re right or you’re wrong.

I’m not saying she is a good person or that she has never done anything wrong, but truly high level illegal, nah. There’s no evidence of any of it.
One could make the exact same argument regarding Trump. He was put through the cleaners, I think it is perfectly fair to do the same with Hillary.
 
Still, do you see American agriculture being economical without near slavery? Robots maybe will put humans out of the fields but not sure that is better.

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"Agriculture" is a rather large term. In many/most agricultural sectors big corporate, highly profitable agri-business already prevails. Eastern Washington/Eastern Oregon -as examples- have one of the highest concentrations of millionaires- ie wheat farmers, in the country. Although their machinery may not be "robots" as we think of it, it is neverthess highly sophisticated, mechanized, and comfy too.

In regard to vegetable crops, and grapes etc, there is nothing wrong with working in the fields. The pay and conditions just need to be better. Same with being a chambermaid. But the pay and conditions do not increase do they when there is a small army of illegals willing to do it for even less standing nearby?
 
"Agriculture" is a rather large term. In many/most agricultural sectors big corporate, highly profitable agri-business already prevails. Eastern Washington/Eastern Oregon -as examples- have one of the highest concentrations of millionaires- ie wheat farmers, in the country. Although their machinery may not be "robots" as we think of it, it is neverthess highly sophisticated, mechanized, and comfy too.

In regard to vegetable crops, and grapes etc, there is nothing wrong with working in the fields. The pay and conditions just need to be better. Same with being a chambermaid. But the pay and conditions do not increase do they when there is a small army of illegals willing to do it for even less standing nearby?

Clearly I assumed we were in the realm of non-combine harvester crops :) Pay and conditions need to be better for Americans to do the work. And the prices go up and Wholefoods is already 'Whole Paycheck".

Fine, so the price of vegetables shoots up and fresh food is even less accessible to lower income people who get even fatter. Good plan, eating vegetables is for pussies.

Or would farming collapse as food is just imported from elsewhere?

I spent a short while working on a large property in New Mexico just for the fun of riding a horse and sleeping in the desert as a cowboy (and for free). I've seen crops picked in the sun and that is not for panzy modern white Americans.

I was military trained, I'd just completed my fourth triathlon and was about to go to Africa working in anti-poaching. I recall well looking at these little Latinos and thinking, they are tougher than me. A sobering moment.

On the other hand, picking apples in New England, sign me up for the cider house.
 
Clearly I assumed we were in the realm of non-combine harvester crops :) Pay and conditions need to be better for Americans to do the work. And the prices go up and Wholefoods is already 'Whole Paycheck".

Fine, so the price of vegetables shoots up and fresh food is even less accessible to lower income people who get even fatter. Good plan, eating vegetables is for pussies.

Or would farming collapse as food is just imported from elsewhere?

I spent a short while working on a large property in New Mexico just for the fun of riding a horse and sleeping in the desert as a cowboy (and for free). I've seen crops picked in the sun and that is not for panzy modern white Americans.

I was military trained, I'd just completed my fourth triathlon and was about to go to Africa working in anti-poaching. I recall well looking at these little Latinos and thinking, they are tougher than me. A sobering moment.

On the other hand, picking apples in New England, sign me up for the cider house.


Your comments bespeak the typical forked tongue of liberals on these issues.

Liberals want increases in wages but do everything they can to maintain a constant flow of illegals to undercut a rises in wages.

Liberals talk a good game of equality for all but basically want to maintain an old colonial mentality of bringing untouchables in to do their dirty work.

Oh, and I am in area on the west coast that is wall-to-wall with latinos doing manual labor so you can save the lecturette there too.
 
Your comments bespeak the typical forked tongue of liberals on these issues.

Liberals want increases in wages but do everything they can to maintain a constant flow of illegals to undercut a rises in wages.

Liberals talk a good game of equality for all but basically want to maintain an old colonial mentality of bringing untouchables in to do their dirty work.

Oh, and I am in area on the west coast that is wall-to-wall with latinos doing manual labor so you can save the lecturette there too.

Republicans shut down Democrats' e-verify and aren't pushing for it in DACA negotiations. If you think Democrats own Agro-corp, I still have that bridge for sale.
 
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Your comments bespeak the typical forked tongue of liberals on these issues.

Liberals want increases in wages but do everything they can to maintain a constant flow of illegals to undercut a rises in wages.

Liberals talk a good game of equality for all but basically want to maintain an old colonial mentality of bringing untouchables in to do their dirty work.

Oh, and I am in area on the west coast that is wall-to-wall with latinos doing manual labor so you can save the lecturette there too.

You have jumps in your logic that no bridge could join but maybe Here4Money could get you half way there.
 
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