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Sam Altman: Trump is evoking memories of Hitler and this is his 'big lie'

I'm going to say something very unpopular in my world: Trump is right about some big things.

He's right that many Americans are getting screwed by the system. He's right that the economy is not growing nearly fast enough. He's right that we're drowning in political correctness, and that broken campaign finance laws have bred a class of ineffective career politicians. He may even be right that free trade is not the best policy. Trump supporters are not dumb.

But Trump is wrong about the more important part: how to fix these problems. Many of his proposals, such as they are, are so wrong they're difficult to even respond to.

Even more dangerous, though, is the way he's wrong. He is not merely irresponsible. He is irresponsible in the way dictators are.

Trump's casual racism, misogyny and conspiracy theories are without precedent among major presidential nominees. He has said that a judge of Mexican descent couldn't treat him fairly because of his heritage, and that we should ban Muslims from entering the country.

When his supporters beat up a homeless Hispanic man and cited Trump, he called them "very passionate." He has accused Obama of somehow being responsible for the recent shooting in Orlando.

To anyone familiar with the history of Germany in the 1930s, it's chilling to watch Trump in action. Though I know intellectually it's easy in hard economic times to rile people up with a hatred of outsiders, it's still surprising to watch this happen right in front of us.

It's hard to tell, as it often is with demagogues, how much is calculation and how much is genuine belief. But it's a real and terrifying possibility that Trump actually believes much of what he says. In any case, when he says it, it signals to other people that it's OK to believe.

Demagogic hate-mongers lead down terrible paths. It would be particularly embarrassing for us to fall for this — we are a nation of immigrants, and we know that immigrants built this country (and Trump, of course, is the grandson of immigrants and married to an immigrant).

Hitler taught us about the big lie — the lie so big, and so often repeated, that people end up believing it.

Trump's big lie is hiding in plain sight. His big lie is that he's going to make America great by keeping us safe from outsiders.

But he has no serious plan for how to restore economic growth, which is what we actually need. Without it, we'll be in a zero-sum game and face continued infighting. And without it, we'll lose our position as the most powerful country in the world.

He distracts us with hate of outsiders in the hopes that we don't notice he has no plan for the inside. He has failed to put forward a serious plan for major investments in research and technology that we so desperately need. Instead, he tries to distract us with fear of Them.

At least Trump is willing to talk about the fact that the U.S. is not on an acceptable growth trajectory. The big truth in Trump's slogan is "again" — we do need a fundamental change to get back to where we were. Clinton's dangerously bad big lie is that there's no big problem here at all.

Trump is right about the problem, but horribly wrong about the solution.

I take some risk by writing this (even though I've supported some Republicans in the past), and I'll feel bad if I end up hurting Y Combinator by doing so. I understand why other people in the technology industry aren't saying much. In an ordinary election, it's reasonable for people in the business world to remain publicly neutral. But this is not an ordinary election.

This would be a good time for us all — even Republicans, especially Republican politicians who previously endorsed Trump — to start speaking up.


http://blog.samaltman.com/trump
 
When a nation devalues science and R&D, what we get is what we have now - a no growth economy and the usual suspects that want to take the country back to when they burned witches and had inquisitions. That is their Holy Grail.

Imo, the beginning of the end of Trumps' "again" can probably be pointed to directly and singled out to a single event. When you devalue your best, they go somewhere else, and those economies flourish. It isn't business that makes a country great, it is innovation.

Be careful what you ask for - you might get it.

The Crisis of Big Science

Steven Weinberg

http://www.nybooks.com/articles/2012/05/10/crisis-big-science/
 
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This is in the wrong thread. It belongs as an example in the Trump Media Bias thread. Certainly it has it all, Trump is Hitler, Trump is ignorant, Trump is a demagogue. I mean the man expects our immigration laws to be actually enforced. What kind of monster does that?

Then there is the mindless tossing around of "nation of immigrants" etc, as though our experience in the late 1800's is somehow relevant to letting in millions of muslims and poor Hispanics who will immediately go on welfare. He didn't mention that this nation of immigrants had a near total ban on immigration for 40 years, up until 1965.
 
This is in the wrong thread. It belongs as an example in the Trump Media Bias thread. Certainly it has it all, Trump is Hitler, Trump is ignorant, Trump is a demagogue. I mean the man expects our immigration laws to be actually enforced. What kind of monster does that?

Then there is the mindless tossing around of "nation of immigrants" etc, as though our experience in the late 1800's is somehow relevant to letting in millions of muslims and poor Hispanics who will immediately go on welfare. He didn't mention that this nation of immigrants had a near total ban on immigration for 40 years, up until 1965.
You don't understand the premise: That Trump is terrific at pointing out the problems, but that his own psychosis has lead him to choose the wrong way to resolve the problem.

Read the original post again, slowly this time. If Trump had chosen instead to make R&D the main focus of his message, he might be the next POTUS.
 
I understand the premise: Trump is hitler, Trump is a demagogue, etc etc, all because he thinks we need to get a handle on massive illegal immigration and taking in tens of thousands of refugees, many of whom will be terrorists.

Or maybe I read the wrong article and it doesn't link Trump to Germany in the 1930's?

We already have a demagogue as president. One who blames everything on racism, who demonizes anyone who disagrees with him from the Supreme Court on down, who ignores the law and the Constitution when it suits him and who is obsessed with totally altering the character of the country against the people's wishes. So I am very familiar with the concept. It just doesn't apply to Trump.
 
I understand the premise: Trump is hitler, Trump is a demagogue, etc etc, all because he thinks we need to get a handle on massive illegal immigration and taking in tens of thousands of refugees, many of whom will be terrorists.

Or maybe I read the wrong article and it doesn't link Trump to Germany in the 1930's?

We already have a demagogue as president. One who blames everything on racism, who demonizes anyone who disagrees with him from the Supreme Court on down, who ignores the law and the Constitution when it suits him and who is obsessed with totally altering the character of the country against the people's wishes. So I am very familiar with the concept. It just doesn't apply to Trump.
I think lots of people agree that we need to have some sort of system for having a real border. But even that concept is horribly racist.

Take a plane to Canada, bordering the US to the north. It is not even an international flight. Now take a plain to Mexico, bordering the US to the south.

See?

Further, even if Trump is correct, he is a terrible salesperson when it comes to selling it to the general population.

He still doesn't get it. Winning the Republican primaries, while an achievement, is well, I don't know what the word is, "not even half way" is reasonable estimate.

In order to win the general, you have to bring something other than fear and hate and birther movements and division and mostly, other than the 10% which is your constituency, the rest of the voting people have to like you! LMAO.

Trump laughs at Bernie. Bernie got as many votes as he did. It isn't that hard to get 10% of anything. Gary Johnson will probably get 25 million votes this year.
 
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we are so fortunate to have friendly's on our borders.

the jingoists would prefer they lived on an island surrounded by only the pacific.

this is mah-country! i didn't know you owned it :D
 
Good article, but I disagree with "economic growth is what we actually need". Imo we need productivity growth, and we need a redistribution (I'm not saying how) of ownership of that productivity growth. Economic growth and productivity have a relationship of course, but differ in at least one important way: economic growth alone will lead to more environmental decay.
 
I think lots of people agree that we need to have some sort of system for having a real border. But even that concept is horribly racist.

Take a plane to Canada, bordering the US to the north. It is not even an international flight. Now take a plain to Mexico, bordering the US to the south.


See?

Further, even if Trump is correct, he is a terrible salesperson when it comes to selling it to the general population.

He still doesn't get it. Winning the Republican primaries, while an achievement, is well, I don't know what the word is, "not even half way" is reasonable estimate.

In order to win the general, you have to bring something other than fear and hate and birther movements and division and mostly, other than the 10% which is your constituency, the rest of the voting people have to like you! LMAO.

Trump laughs at Bernie. Bernie got as many votes as he did. It isn't that hard to get 10% of anything. Gary Johnson will probably get 25 million votes this year.

How can we have a responsible conversation about border security with people with your mindset, when you make absurd and false statements like these? It is not racist to control the border. Also, Canadian flights have the same international status as flights to Mexico.
 
How can we have a responsible conversation about border security with people with your mindset, when you make absurd and false statements like these? It is not racist to control the border. Also, Canadian flights have the same international status as flights to Mexico.
I agree that it is imperative that we control the borders, just like any other nation does. That is not what I meant to get across.

As far as US vs Canada travel, I think both Mexicans and Canadians can get a NEXUS card:

https://www.cbp.gov/travel/trusted-traveler-programs/nexus

But I admit I am confused because I have seen Canadians travel directly into the US and not go out of the international terminal at Ohare.
 
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