Treyvon Martin issue is starting to irritate the hell out of me

Quote from pspr:

Remember that "innocent until proven guilty" thing we have in this country?

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Zimmerman is thinking that when he call the 911 because he see the boy walking?
 
Quote from peilthetraveler:

An eyewitness who saw everything already said it was zimmerman yelling for help.

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Who is the eyewitness that saw everything? Only 2 people saw everything. One is dead.
 
You know, peil, I have you on ignore so I can only see what other people quote.
The crazy thing is, the more I read your stuff, the lower my opinion gets. I honestly didn't think my opinion of you could get any lower, but then I never thought a human being was capable of sinking to the level you just crashed to, well, except for Lucrum, but he's his own special case.
So, it appears, are you.
 
Quote from trendlover:

Quote from pspr:

Remember that "innocent until proven guilty" thing we have in this country?

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Zimmerman is thinking that when he call the 911 because he see the boy walking?
Your comment is irrelevant. I'm talking about how the law handles someone accused of a crime. You are talking about something that possibly or possibly not is going through someones mind before there is any crime.

Do you honestly think the police were asking Zimmerman after the shooting, "were you thinking about "innocent until proven guilty" while watching out for a potential threat to property?

No - it's irrelevant to what happened.
 
Quote from pspr:

This is the only story I've seen about the witness and it is incomplete.

http://www.myfoxtampabay.com/dpp/news/state/witness-martin-attacked-zimmerman-03232012

Here is a link with all eight 911 calls.

Call number 4 is the witness who saw Trayvon on top of Zimmerman that is referenced in the article. Note that no independent witnesses saw how the confrontation started or who physically attacked first. Only Zimmerman and Trayvon (now deceased) witnessed the start of the fight.
 
Quote from pspr:

This is the only story I've seen about the witness and it is incomplete.

http://www.myfoxtampabay.com/dpp/news/state/witness-martin-attacked-zimmerman-03232012
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Yes incomplete. That link only talk about one part of time. Only one part of time to make Treyvon look bad.

"The guy on the bottom who had a red sweater on was yelling to me: 'help, help…and I told him to stop and I was calling 911," he said.

Trayvon Martin was in a hoodie; Zimmerman was in red.

"When I got upstairs and looked down, the guy who was on top beating up the other guy, was the one laying in the grass, and I believe he was dead at that point," John said.
 
Quote from pspr:

Your comment is irrelevant. I'm talking about how the law handles someone accused of a crime. You are talking about something that possibly or possibly not is going through someones mind before there is any crime.

Do you honestly think the police were asking Zimmerman after the shooting, "were you thinking about "innocent until proven guilty" while watching out for a potential threat to property?

No - it's irrelevant to what happened.
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What is potential threat to property? That boy is walking home. Is that boy on someone property? Is that boy near someone window? Is that boy try to get in someone house. No. Why is he potential threat? You talk about freedom this country have. And you do not know really how fortunate you are. Because if you really know how fortunate you are to have freedom, you will NEVER defend the killing of this boy for nothing he do but walk on the street.
 
Quote from futurecurrents:

Or an over-zealous cop wannabe with delusions of power jumped to a conclusion, ignored dispatcher's request not to follow, got out of his SUV and confronted a scared teen, got punched by the teen (maybe) and then shot the teen. The key thing here.....HE GOT OUT OF HIS SUV......he was the aggressor. Had he simply stayed in the SUV this would never had happened. There was no reason to get out.


An over-zealous cop wannabe? Yeah, that seems to be a fact.

But Zimmerman and the "secret witness" both say that Zimmerman had lost sight of Martin and was walking back to his vehicle when he was ambushed by Martin and being beaten breaking his nose and lacerating his skull.

During the beating Zimmerman was able to get his weapon out and lawfully shot Martin.

When the police arrived they found Zimmerman bloodied and sporting a broken nose. The account given by the witness and Zimmerman matched and so the police made a determination that it was a lawful self-defense shooting and Zimmerman was allowed to leave with his weapon.

It sucks that this kid was killed. But the fact that Zimmerman had followed Martin inappropriately isn't relevant to the assault and subsequent shooting. Your insistence that Zimmerman be charged with murder reveals a lot about you.
 
Quote from 377OHMS:

But Zimmerman and the "secret witness" both say that Zimmerman had lost sight of Martin and was walking back to his vehicle when he was ambushed by Martin and being beaten breaking his nose and lacerating his skull.

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Where is this information of the secret witness? Where is this? Why is this secret? Why? Because is bullshit?
 
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