Trend Following "SUPER FUND" down

Quote from asap:

any serious professional knows that "trend following" is a not viable strategy in the long run because trends only exist in hindsight.

on the other hand, any so-called trend following system, would have to perform well in the present due to the impressive swings in the market.

now, it appears not only the fund is based on a false premise but rather it also fails miserably exploiting it when the conditions are favorable to do so.

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Any serious professional knows what an absolute joke this comment is. Some of the most successful funds that trade forex and commodities are trend following. Trend/counter-trend, BOTH work. You are acting like the typical ET bird-brain who just figured out the realm of counter-trend trading after failing to employ a successful trend strategy, thus now de-facto conclude trend is counter-"intuitive."

If/when a newb is fortunate enough to make it around the block, they will realize what an entirely circle-jerk argument this thread represents.
 
Quote from operator:

surf, why don't you explain a little more about how you trade? Do you just trade looking for countertrends?
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aha, issit coz u want to fade surf. smart move:D
 
Quote from asiaprop:

thats a joke. The only game in town that beat trend following in 2008 was being short financials straight from Jan into Dec. Who has such exposure and nothing else? Very few.

Secondly, the point is that for the retail investor (I stress investor!) trend following is THE ONLY WAY to maximize your investment over a long period of time. Name me ANYTHING else that an investor should do rather than trend following.
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that's not true. 2008 our option arb fund up over 60%, smaller option marketmaking vol/arb fund up over 300% prior to rule change in late summer--can't get into details.

what's the difference between "trend following" and buy/sell and hold??

thanks, surf
 
Quote from Ghostdog:

Oh well, not sure why anyone cares. Do we actually have money in superfund?
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many here do. i think its 5k minimum--the hedge fund for the masses....

surf
 
Quote from marketsurfer:

many here do. i think its 5k minimum--the hedge fund for the masses....

surf
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There's nothing "hedge" about it. It's marketed as a managed futures fund, and the founders use a trend-following indicator to follow trends in a diversity of futures markets.

rt
 
Quote from marketsurfer:

what's the difference between "trend following" and buy/sell and hold??
thanks, surf
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Asked and answered; over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over . . . again.

You simply don't like some of the answers so you ignore them. Great political tactic.
 
Quote from ProfLogic:

Hey Surf, you must be getting bored to poke this sleeping animal again.

I think I've found a way that you and I can come together a bit on this subject but I won't guarantee it. Here goes:

Trends only exist in hindsite.
Trends, alone, aren't consistently or successfully tradeable.
Trends are hindsite chart specific.
Trends only exist on hindsite charts and can not exist in overall markets.
Successfully trading charts must encompass more information other than simple trending information.

Do you agree or at least understand these points so far?
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yes, i agree with you, except for the final statement---i would change it to read "succesful trading must encompass more information than charts can provide"

surf
 
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