trend following delusion shattered

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Quote from ProfLogic:

I will repeat myself. Page 62, last response and page 64, response to Hank. Read it, calculate it & program it if you can. It's trademarked anyway. If you can't figure it out, not my problem. You wanted proof, you didn't say anything about educating you to understand it. I have a programmer that not only flowcharted it but programmed it. Do you understand that statement?
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That's wonderful.

Are you ready to answer the challenge I put forward on page 64?
 
Quote from hank rollins:

of course you are trading with the trend if you have profits.

please provide your exact definition of trend.
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I thought I did. If the 50 day moving average is above the day the trend is up and you go long. If it is below the trend is down and you go short. I guess I don't understand what you mean
 
Quote from hank rollins:

of course you are trading with the trend if you have profits.

please provide your exact definition of trend.
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My 2 cents:

A simple answer would be we don't have to define what's a trend, whether mathematically or not, in order to make profits in trading the financial markets. :confused:
 
Quote from NickelScalper:

It seems that if the Imaginary Trend were a reality, the following challenge question would have been answered by now:

What is a reliable method that can be applied to past price action to determine a usefully large positive or negative number d such that (p1-p0)>=d, where p0 is the current market price and p1 will be the market price in the near future?

I'm looking for an answer to be posted here in plain text form. The proof of the answer is also to be posted here, as real time trading calls that specify on what basis the proposed method is being invoked and a target price.

Attention: There's no need to give up anything secret. Surely, someone must know of a second or third rate method that's beneath their dignity to employ.
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I am not able to predict the future so I am not able to come up with p1. I don't know of any person that is able to predict the future so I find your challenge perplexing. Maybe I should ask my magic eight ball
 
Quote from 5yrtrader:

I thought I did. If the 50 day moving average is above the day the trend is up and you go long. If it is below the trend is down and you go short. I guess I don't understand what you mean
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above the day ? what do you mean ?? seriously, i dont have any clue what you mean. please explain further. you mean 200 day , right ??

respectfully,

hank
 
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That's wonderful.

Are you ready to answer the challenge I put forward on page 64?
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I'm sorry. Did I type too fast for you?
You asked, I answered. I can't help it you don't have the background to understand what I layed out. Is that my fault. No! Is it your fault? No! I can't answer biological questions and have no desire to do so either. If you have the desire . . . do the research to plug the holes you seem to have questions for. If the answers aren't inportant, don't say something doesn't exist unless you are prepared to prove it to YOURSELF!
 
Quote from hank rollins:

above the day ? what do you mean ?? seriously, i dont have any clue what you mean. please explain further. you mean 200 day , right ??

respectfully,

hank
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Yes, 200 day MA. What else would you like me to explain?

Respectfully,

5yr
 
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I am not able to predict the future so I am not able to come up with p1. I don't know of any person that is able to predict the future so I find your challenge perplexing. Maybe I should ask my magic eight ball
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I agree. Why is it that people that don't Trend Trade think that Trend Traders "PREDICT" the Market action. It is further proof they have no clue what we do.
 
Quote from 5yrtrader:

Yes, 200 day MA. What else would you like me to explain?

Respectfully,

5yr I ran a system in which the trader gets long if the 50 day MA is above the 200 day MA, short if the 50 day MA is below the 200 day MA, with stops. Risk 1% of equity per trade across 50 futures markets from 1995 to 2000. Beginning equity is $2,000,000
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if you decrease the number of future markets you tested, does it effect the end result ? for instance, 5, 10, 20 , 25 markets randomly selected.
 
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