Trading while trying to lose weight on Atkins

Quote from axeman:

Wow... according to the BMI calcs, you would have to
be under 133lb at 5'11 to be considered underweight!!!

Geeezuuuzzz! You would be a concentration camp victim
at that weight!

Whats wrong with this picture?


peace

axeman

133 -- exactly!

I did claim he was about 50 lbs overweight. I hit it right on the nose.
 
Dude....Ive been as low as 140lb at 5'11 and I looked SICKLY thin.
People thought I was a coke addict or something!

That is NOT a healthy weight if you have any amount
of muscle on you.

133 might be OK if you are a thin boned, stringy, low muscle dude,
but that doesn't apply to everyone.

A 5'11 endomorph at 133lb would look like a seriously starved
elephant on its last leg.

(Not claiming welo is an endomorph).


peace

axeman



Quote from GeeTO69:



133 -- exactly!

I did claim he was about 50 lbs overweight. I hit it right on the nose.
 
Quote from axeman:

5'11 at 150lb is listed as in the normal weight range
for the generic charts, but not when you have a good
amount of muscle on you.

I've been 5'11 and 150lb and EVERYONE considered me
real skinny. (Very low body fat).

At 180lb after much body building, I was not huge, but
very muscular and ripped as hell. All my clothes finally
fit right. But if you go by the generic BMI scale I would
be considered overweight.


From the pic, welo has got a good amount of muscle on him,
and he does not look capable of losing 40-50lbs of just FAT
to get to that weight. He would have to drop some muscle
as well.


As for being small boned, we'll just have to ask welo.

Also.... 178lb would just put welo into the upper end
of the normal weight range for his height.


peace

axeman




You may know better than I but I can't believe you actually added 30 lb of muscle to your frame. I mean lean muscle. More likely somewhat less muscle mixed with fat. Often it is hard to tell the difference when we look in mirror. It is possible you did but improbable unless you are some kind of genetic freak. That;s unlikely.
 
Quote from axeman:

5'11 at 150lb is listed as in the normal weight range
for the generic charts, but not when you have a good
amount of muscle on you.

I've been 5'11 and 150lb and EVERYONE considered me
real skinny. (Very low body fat).
That's pretty much where I sit. I don't recall being under 150 since I was 16, and at 160 I have a 28" waist. 180-185 is the best range for me as long as I'm in shape. Cripes, even now after being unable to lift for over three years I bet I can still bench 245.

And Gee, my bones are none of your business. I might be a borderline gimp atm but I can still knock somebody out :p.
 
Ok.... I wasn't being literal when I said 30lb of MUSCLE.
There had to be some fat in there.
To be more accurate, I gained 30 lbs of WEIGHT, and
looked like I had extremely low body fat. Very ripped.

That was the maximum weight I was capable of adding.
Im naturally very lean genetically.

My metabolism went nutz...and I was lifting heavy
three times a week and downing tons of calories.
4000-5000 calories a day was not uncommon for me.

That's what it took to maintain that amount of muscle on me.

I couldnt do it for long, and gave it up.
I hated food after that experience.


peace

axeman



Quote from GeeTO69:



You may know better than I but I can't believe you actually added 30 lb of muscle to your frame. I mean lean muscle. More likely somewhat less muscle mixed with fat. Often it is hard to tell the difference when we look in mirror. It is possible you did but improbable unless you are some kind of genetic freak. That;s unlikely.
 
Quote from axeman:

Dude....Ive been as low as 140lb at 5'11 and I looked SICKLY thin.
People thought I was a coke addict or something!

That is NOT a healthy weight if you have any amount
of muscle on you.

133 might be OK if you are a thin boned, stringy, low muscle dude,
but that doesn't apply to everyone.

A 5'11 endomorph at 133lb would look like a seriously starved
elephant on its last leg.

(Not claiming welo is an endomorph).


peace

axeman




You keep referring to 'looks". Looks can be deceiving. The society in which we're raised provides our conceptions of what looks "normal". I personally don't trust society to make this decision for me, do you? That's too arbitrary for me.

Why should you carry more than a few % fat on your body? Regardless of what you may weigh or how you look, let % bodyfat dictate what you weigh.

We are talking about healthier choices here aren't we?

Make sense?
 
Well that settles it.
There is no way some thin boned ectomorph is benching 245lb :D

peace

axeman



Quote from welo:
Cripes, even now after being unable to lift for over three years I bet I can still bench 245.
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The only reason I refer to "looks" is because I cannot
recall my actual measured percentage body fat
from 10+ years ago.

But we know that body builders are around the 4-5% range
and are amonst the leanest inidviduals around.

When I was serious about lifting, thats what I looked like.
It was almost gross. You can see the fine detail in every
muscle because there was soooo little fat in my skin everywhere.

If I had to estimate, I would say that I was easily under 7%
body fat, and probably closer to 5.


peace

axeman


Quote from GeeTO69:



You keep referring to 'looks". Looks can be deceiving. The society in which we're raised provides our conceptions of what looks "normal". I personally don't trust society to make this decision for me, do you? That's too arbitrary for me.

Why should you carry more than a few % fat on your body? Regardless of what you may weigh or how you look, let % bodyfat dictate what you weigh.

We are talking about healthier choices here aren't we?

Make sense?
 
Quote from welo:


That's pretty much where I sit. I don't recall being under 150 since I was 16, and at 160 I have a 28" waist. 180-185 is the best range for me as long as I'm in shape. Cripes, even now after being unable to lift for over three years I bet I can still bench 245.

And Gee, my bones are none of your business. I might be a borderline gimp atm but I can still knock somebody out :p.

Please don't take offense I certainly don't have the guts to post my pic here. :)

However I must be truthful. Look at your hands and wrists. Smallish. Small to medium to be more precise. What does your wrist measure (circumference)? My guess is -- 7 1/4 inches tops. Your wrist will measure under 7 after losing more fat. Sorry but this is smallish. Don't feel bad I am not any powerhouse either.

Peace and good health to you.

edit: I almost forgot -- I wanted to ask why you think 180-185 is best range for you?
 
Quote from axeman:

Well that settles it.
There is no way some thin boned ectomorph is benching 245lb :D

peace

axeman




LOL ahhh you are not serious are you? :)

I know a couple very thin guys that bench press more than that, you'd never know it to look at them.

The bench press is much about leverage and technique, and less about absolute strength.

Generally weightlifters are "stronger" lb for lb as compared to bodybuilders for the same reasons.

Good health to all!
 
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