trading stats related to fridays selloff

Quote from piezoe:

Thank you Jason, for the nice observation. There is undoubtedly a lot of short interest to fuel a rip up, and provide a second opportunity to those missing the first to dump. There usually is a second opportunity, isn't there?

Reverse conversion. No unwinding till the fat lady sings.
 
What was once the VIX is now VXO.
In the last 2 trading sessions VXO has gone from 18.27 to 25.09, a cumulative rise of about 37.3%. During the 2 trading days preceding 10/19/87, VXO went from 26.36 to 36.37 (+38.0%). Trade as you will.
 
Quote from LT701:

what has to be considered, is whether this is a bull correction, or a bear start

which is it?

i honestly dont know - it could be either

but i do remember the period of 2000-2001

people kept comparing it to this, and to that, from history

what they couldnt comprehend, is that history was unfolding before their eyes

doesnt mean that that's true now, this could be nothing more than a blip

I'm not in the top/bottom picking business but you might find this chart of interest. I first started presenting this chart a couple weeks ago because it looked like we were entering a "window of opportunity for change".
 

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Quote from azukar:

I'm not in the top/bottom picking business but you might find this chart of interest. I first started presenting this chart a couple weeks ago because it looked like we were entering a "window of opportunity for change".

interesting chart, but those intersection points seem arbitrary. if I were looking at that chart, i would mark the change of direction points much earlier ...
 
A very important fact about the WHOLE picture since October of 1982 until now. These past 2 1/2 decades have been with falling interest rates. Sure the FED raised rates back up to what 51/2 % on fed funds? This is still not considered a tight interest rate environment. It is highly unlikely stocks will have such a friendly environment the next 2 1/2 decades (this is an understatement).

Be prepared for more, not saying increasing, just saying more that we saw before June volatility in the months (years hopefully) ahead. This could be daytraders "MOTHER LODE" days, enjoy and have fun. The ONE_WAY mkt for stocks and stock index futures days are over for a long time to come...........be skilled in going long or short and all will be even better. :)

HOG OUT!!
 
Quote from showyouwang:

hey jasonjm,

thank you for sharing the information it is much appreciated. do you keep track of this stuff by hand or backtest it through software? id imagine it would be pretty difficult by hand


by hand in excel :-)

and I didn't customize anything to match fridays move, i just looked through the tables for last 12 years for 2 huge back to back daily vix increases such as we have just seen
 
Quote from BlindLemonBoosh:

What was once the VIX is now VXO.
In the last 2 trading sessions VXO has gone from 18.27 to 25.09, a cumulative rise of about 37.3%. During the 2 trading days preceding 10/19/87, VXO went from 26.36 to 36.37 (+38.0%). Trade as you will.

lol i was waiting for someone to point that out

for anyone who doesnt know the exact facts, vix in 87 crash topped out at 150, youch

anyways, once in a hundred year event, if you are on wrong side of a train like that, well, nothing you can do..... (except be lucky enough to either be out of the market when it happens, or be lucky enough to be short)
 
Infolode, would you care to elaborate on your strike + call - stock - put hypothesis? Though i'm convinced your insight is brilliant, i'm having a senior moment and need some help here.:)
 
Quote from piezoe:

Infolode, would you care to elaborate on your strike + call - stock - put hypothesis?
I don't "get it" either. This position has a capped profit on the downside. Maybe what he is saying that once these positions get into their max profit and then the market starts to go against them ("fat lady sings" ?), they will be unwound with the short stock being covered and the maybe the call option stays in place and potentially the put option, depending on how far it is from it's strike / how far in-the-money. This does look like a decent strat....but needs some P&L analysis with a changing volatility.
 
Quote from condorll:

>within 3 weeks, 8 of the nine times the S&P recovered 3% of the SP index.... so statistically speaking, there is an 88% chance the SPX trades back to 1501 within 3 weeks from its 1458 close on friday.
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That's great news, I will be ready to short again!

Thanks for the heads up stats!

"Short every Rally attempt"

Cheers!

Be sure, I am on the other side of your shorts ;=) :D :D :D
 
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