Trading on congressional legislation?

There's an aweful lot of of free expression and anti establishment rhetoric in this thread. I'm afraid I'll have to report you all to my Republican higher ups before things get out of hand.
 
Quote from og5:

There's an aweful lot of of free expression and anti establishment rhetoric in this thread. I'm afraid I'll have to report you all to my Republican higher ups before things get out of hand.


Soon you'll have the ability to dispatch black-bag squads to the homes of suspected dissenters. So you have that to look forward to, which is nice.
 
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A significant impact could be created, even without the Libertarians winning a thing.

Imagine if 10% of voters had cast their ballots for the Libertarian candidate. Suddenly, you'd see both big parties pandering to Libertarians, making frequent pro-freedom (=anti nanny-state)
gestures in attempt to grab our vote- Just like they pander to every other minority group with significant numbers.

Why the fuck do I even bother? It's not like I can do anything to prevent the Orwellian Hell this nation is about to become. That's how Cassandra Complex works, after all.

Rearden.... I'm with you... really I am. And I'll be voting this fall for the first time in a while... But... when one considers the gravity and the apparent impossibility of the situation... there is not much more we can do but SHRUG. Who is John Galt?
 
Quote from StockApprentice:

Rearden.... I'm with you... really I am. And I'll be voting this fall for the first time in a while... But... when one considers the gravity and the apparent impossibility of the situation... there is not much more we can do but SHRUG. You know?

Thank you... and dead right.

If shrugging fails, hunting DEA narcs with a sniper rifle could also make a fine hobby. Keep pushing us further and further back into a corner, and find out if I'm joking...
 
Quote from mschey:

I'm with you Rearden....keep fighting the fight and putting the word out. I am sick and tired of every aspect of my life being controlled and legislated. Who the fuck are they to tell me I can't gamble online?

I completely agree; what the hell is going on - pretty soon you won't be able to log onto the internet altogether anymore because of some new law. I played online poker for a living for 3 years of my life and was very successful and I am outraged by this new legislation. Its not only the poker players from around the US that should be worried, but the common man as well, as more and more freedoms are being taken away day by day....

-TheActionKid
 
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I completely agree; what the hell is going on - pretty soon you won't be able to log onto the internet altogether anymore because of some new law. I played online poker for a living for 3 years of my life and was very successful and I am outraged by this new legislation. Its not only the poker players from around the US that should be worried, but the common man as well, as more and more freedoms are being taken away day by day....

-TheActionKid


Well it looks like I'll never get another response to the initial question. Having participated in the hijacking of my own thread, I may as well post a serious response now.

The fundamental idea behind libertarianism is flawed. People are intelligent animals, but they are still ANIMALS and thus they need rules to guide and protect them (especially the lower class) An example to illustrate my point: You see how people drive nowadays. As imperfect as they are, most are still of the time the conservative rules in place keep them from driving so wild that they kill themselves.

A libertarianist set of traffic rules would be so unsafe that people would afraid to drive. Speed limits on the freeway would be set as 100 mph "or less depending on the severity of traffic flow." Stuck at a red light? libertarian rules would allow you the right to run it under the same protocols as a right on a red. And with all this, people won't be as inclined to wear seatbelts because it's no longer required taht they do so. Perhaps those uncomfortable buggers will get so unpopular that car manufacterers stop making them (and airabgs) After all, who's to say that those things saved lives anyways? I'm sure Ford could find that the old nazi government safetey measures actually killed more lives than they saved! (marketing campaign follows)

You guys have more faith in man than I do if you don't see any problems with the libertarian policy. But at least there is no worry of being oppressed right? :p
 
Quote from og5:

I mistakenly believe that Libertarianism is no different than anarchism. I've never read Rand, but I'm willing to make a blind false assumption or two, if this helps make my point. Won't someone please set me straight?

Why are you presenting irrelevant <b>anti-anarchy</b> arguments to <b>Libertarians</b>? Do you also make anti-segregationist arguments to moderate Republicans?

Wrong address, dude.
 
Time for "Tea Party 2"

Unless the public wakes up and takes to the streets now and then we will just get more of the same. Bunch of pansies will never get attention. The middle class was driven forward because of the labor movements of a few decades ago. Today workers let their rights get stomped on and throw out the back door. Today we are seing all the sacrifice and blood, sweat and tears the labor movement suffered to help us all get washed down the sewer.


Ask yourself this question. WHY is it that corps are making record profits and the middle class is getting crushed? why are ceo's etc making millions as the workers lose healthcare, pensions etc?

Gee, i wonder who is the fool in that picture?

Until we raise hell and dance in the streets they will always have us right where they want us. Wise up folks, the old days are gone, we are now a mature country so it is time we changed the rules in our favor. Good Luck
 
Nothing will stop the process of the 'corporatization' of American politics (whereby the Congress and WHite House do the bidding of big business) until middle class people are standing in soup lines.

Only then will people wake up. The sheeple that is.

And then it will be too late.
 
Quote from Rearden Metal:

Why are you presenting irrelevant <b>anti-anarchy</b> arguments to <b>Libertarians</b>? Do you also make anti-segregationist arguments to moderate Republicans?

Wrong address, dude.

I'm Pulling this bit from wikipedia:

Key tenets of the Libertarian Party platform include the following:
* Adoption of laissez-faire principles which will result in the complete separation of state and economics. This will include, among other things, enormous reduction in taxation, privatization of Social Security and welfare (for both individuals and companies), elimination of business regulation, abolition of labor regulations such as the minimum wage and the cessation of government interference in foreign trade.
* Protection of property rights.
* Minimal government bureaucracy. The Libertarian Party states that the government's responsibilities should be limited to the protection of individual rights from the initiation of force and fraud with a military, police force, and court system.
* Strong civil liberties positions, including privacy protections, freedom of speech, freedom of association, and sexual freedom.
* Support for the unrestricted right to the means of self-defense (such as gun rights, the right to carry mace or pepper spray, etc).
* Abolition of laws against victimless crimes (prostitution, driving without a seatbelt, use of controlled substances, etc.).
* Opposition to conscription.
* A foreign policy of free trade and non-interventionism.

Libertarians state that their platform follows from consistent application of the principle of mutual respect for rights, and the liberty of exercise thereof, and thus are deeply supportive of the concept of individual liberty as a pre-condition for moral and stable societies. In their "Statement of Principles", they declare: "We hold that all individuals have the right to exercise sole dominion over their own lives, and have the right to live in whatever manner they choose, so long as they do not forcibly interfere with the equal right of others to live in whatever manner they choose."


If ever there was a party that could easily be confused with anarchism, it's the Libertarian party.

If you disagree, please point out how I misrepresented libertarianism in my traffic law example.
 
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