traders who are deeply religious

"I can see how it might be possible for a man to look down upon the earth and be an atheist, but I cannot conceive how he could look up into the heavens and say there is no God."
Abraham Lincoln
 
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I have to recommend the book <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0964695227/002-9562826-5420022?v=glance&n=283155"> "God in the Pits"</a> by Mark Andrew Ritchie on this subject.

Imho, religious people, of course, are not immune from the stresses and strains of life. On balance we probably get a good deal more of it than non-religious people. I do believe that those who are upheld by God are by definition made durable by Him.

Furthermore, religious people dwell in an atmosphere of <i>conviction,</i> which is essential for strength and focus in everyday life.

This is certainly not an exhaustive discussion about the subject.
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god cant be in the pits. if he were he would have all the money in the world since he is all knowing. god evidently prefers to use tv preachers to get his money. tv preacher."send your money to god but use my address".
 
I have asked myself very similar that all of you have brought up on the previous 13 pages. (which was very interesing I might add). Now you can call this self-justification or fact but here is how I look at my daily trading life. (which is now a 6 year career)

1) I am a part of a vigilante task force which helps "polices the market".. meaning merrill , or smith barney, gsco etc. would be completely free to roam and pressure stocks back and forth with complete ease without any traders getting in the way to knaw on their ankles. belive it or not not one of us can compete head on with any firms desk, but as a group we do provide )and remove liquidity).
so The way a see it we are trading for a living, (not for lust). where as the rich fat cat firms are out for global conquest and domination.. they want all the money.

as somebody said earlier making money is fine its the lust for it that kills.
The lord actually says that many abundances will fall upon the faithful(some in this life and later)

finally in conclusion i have to sahre this

I have been daytrading 6 years now daily..no breaks

profitable every month of every year except 2004 when all went sour.
Just became a saved christian in dec. 2004, and have had the most success of my trading career each and every month since while working less (out by noon) and trading way less shares, with minimal stresses.

I do happen to feel a direct connection, in faith and rewards.

On a side not I lost my wife and child shortly at the age of 34 in a drowning accident in a car accident. I have one son who survived. I truly do thank the lors for giving me the finacila flexibility to trade from home profitably now. Not boosting of myself but of his deeds. Only 3 negative days in over 5 months now. traing about 40-60 k shares per day.

I actually believe I see things happen in advance now better than I ever have.

The odd thing is now that I am making really good money... I dont even care about it anymore?

Derek
 
"I can see how it might be possible for a man to look down upon the earth and be an atheist, but I cannot conceive how he could look up into the heavens and say there is no God."
Abraham Lincoln


I said lincoln was a deist, but not a christian. perhaps that's too big a word for you
 
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II have been daytrading 6 years now daily..no breaks

profitable every month of every year except 2004 when all went sour.
Just became a saved christian in dec. 2004, and have had the most success of my trading career each and every month since while working less (out by noon) and trading way less shares, with minimal stresses.

I do happen to feel a direct connection, in faith and rewards.
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your story looks to me like everything else in life. it is the accumulated knowledge of man(you) that made you a better trader. it is not by faith that medicine can do amazing things today. it is by the accumulated knowlege of man that we advance.
 
On a side not I lost my wife and child shortly at the age of 34 in a drowning accident in a car accident. I have one son who survived. I truly do thank the lors for giving me the finacila flexibility to trade from home profitably now. Not boosting of myself but of his deeds. Only 3 negative days in over 5 months now. traing about 40-60 k shares per day.




but then why not thank the lord for losing your wife and child? If the lord is repsonsible for something as meaningless as trading, he is surely responsible for the other.
 
Submission applies to every Christian.

Slavery "is" sanctioned in the bible, in the context that we (Christians) are "slaves to righteousness." This master-slave relationship between mankind and God is referred to throughout THE STORY OF GOD'S PROMISE TO HIS PEOPLE, aka the "Bible."

We are willing slaves to his will. Slavery has been perverted by numerous people, Egyptians and 19th-century Americans alike. The Bible addresses the slave-master relationship numerous times, like:

Ephesians 6:5-9 5 Slaves, be obedient to those who are your masters according to the flesh, with fear and trembling, in the sincerity of your heart, as to Christ; 6 not by way of eyeservice, as men-pleasers, but as slaves of Christ, doing the will of God from the heart. 7 With good will render service, as to the Lord, and not to men, 8 knowing that whatever good thing each one does, this he will receive back from the Lord, whether slave or free. 9 And, masters, do the same things to them, and give up threatening, knowing that both their Master and yours is in heaven, and there is no partiality with Him.

1 Corinthians 7:17-24 Only, as the Lord has assigned to each one, as God has called each, in this manner let him walk. And thus I direct in all the churches. 18 Was any man called already circumcised? Let him not become uncircumcised. Has anyone been called in uncircumcision? Let him not be circumcised. 19 Circumcision is nothing, and uncircumcision is nothing, but what matters is the keeping of the commandments of God. 20 Let each man remain in that condition in which he was called. 21 Were you called while a slave? Do not worry about it; but if you are able also to become free, rather do that. 22 For he who was called in the Lord while a slave, is the Lord’s freedman; likewise he who was called while free, is Christ’s slave. 23 You were bought with a price; do not become slaves of men. 24 Brethren, let each man remain with God in that condition in which he was called.

Colossians 3:22 Slaves, obey your earthly masters in every respect, not only when they are watching – like those who are strictly people-pleasers – but with a sincere heart, fearing the Lord. 3:23 Whatever you are doing, work at it with enthusiasm, as to the Lord and not for people, 3:24 because you know that you will receive your inheritance from the Lord as the reward. Serve the Lord Christ. 3:25 For the one who does wrong will be repaid for his wrong, and there are no exceptions. 4:1 Masters, treat your slaves with justice and fairness, because you know that you also have a master in heaven.
 
the last passage clearly is about an earthly slave relationship, between 2 people.

Deuteronomy 15:12-18 "And if thy brother, an Hebrew man, or an Hebrew woman, be sold unto thee, and serve thee six years; then in the seventh year thou shalt let him go free from thee.And when thou sendest him out free from thee, thou shalt not let him go away empty: Thou shalt furnish him liberally out of thy flock, and out of thy floor, and out of thy winepress: of that wherewith the Lord thy God hath blessed thee thou shalt give unto him."


that is true slavery, not your whitewashed 'righteousness'
 
Quote from Enfinity:

Submission applies to every Christian.

Slavery "is" sanctioned in the bible, in the context that we (Christians) are "slaves to righteousness." This master-slave relationship between mankind and God is referred to throughout THE STORY OF GOD'S PROMISE TO HIS PEOPLE, aka the "Bible."

We are willing slaves to his will. Slavery has been perverted by numerous people, Egyptians and 19th-century Americans alike. The Bible addresses the slave-master relationship numerous times, like:

Ephesians 6:5-9 5 Slaves, be obedient to those who are your masters according to the flesh, with fear and trembling, in the sincerity of your heart, as to Christ; 6 not by way of eyeservice, as men-pleasers, but as slaves of Christ, doing the will of God from the heart. 7 With good will render service, as to the Lord, and not to men, 8 knowing that whatever good thing each one does, this he will receive back from the Lord, whether slave or free. 9 And, masters, do the same things to them, and give up threatening, knowing that both their Master and yours is in heaven, and there is no partiality with Him.

1 Corinthians 7:17-24 Only, as the Lord has assigned to each one, as God has called each, in this manner let him walk. And thus I direct in all the churches. 18 Was any man called already circumcised? Let him not become uncircumcised. Has anyone been called in uncircumcision? Let him not be circumcised. 19 Circumcision is nothing, and uncircumcision is nothing, but what matters is the keeping of the commandments of God. 20 Let each man remain in that condition in which he was called. 21 Were you called while a slave? Do not worry about it; but if you are able also to become free, rather do that. 22 For he who was called in the Lord while a slave, is the Lord’s freedman; likewise he who was called while free, is Christ’s slave. 23 You were bought with a price; do not become slaves of men. 24 Brethren, let each man remain with God in that condition in which he was called.

Colossians 3:22 Slaves, obey your earthly masters in every respect, not only when they are watching – like those who are strictly people-pleasers – but with a sincere heart, fearing the Lord. 3:23 Whatever you are doing, work at it with enthusiasm, as to the Lord and not for people, 3:24 because you know that you will receive your inheritance from the Lord as the reward. Serve the Lord Christ. 3:25 For the one who does wrong will be repaid for his wrong, and there are no exceptions. 4:1 Masters, treat your slaves with justice and fairness, because you know that you also have a master in heaven.
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Why make such fuss about all this. Most people these days, especially those believing they live in socalled "social-democracies" (no others exist today in the world), are in fact subjected to a very refined form of total slavery as the older forms of keeping slaves became 'uneconomical' to their holders.
True freedom and liberty have perhaps reigned for a short period of time in isolated places for enlightened individuals. Things got spoiled quickly afterwards though.
 
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