Toyota is quietly pushing Congress to slow the shift to electric vehicles

[VicBee]

The goal isn't to extend the distance driven by a vehicle, it's to eliminate polluting vehicles. Furthermore, it's important not to tie FSD with the transition to EV, they are 2 separate ambitions.
FSD is further in the future than full EV adoption, which is 15 years. I think viable tech is close (5-8 years?) but the legislative framework and buy-in will be very slow, the key concern being liability when things go wrong.
I don't buy the concerns over electric availability. As I've said before, we will depend on oil and gaz for production for the foreseeable future. Instead of producing gas for polluting vehicles, they will produce electricity for EVs and be decommissioned when green alts come online.
I also believe that our way of life with vehicles will change dramatically in 20 years, at least in Europe. Fewer households will own cars, more will use FSD public transports that will look like taxi/bus hybrids of 8 to 10 passengers with point to point destination, flooding cities and their satellite suburbs so that anyone can hop on one within a minute or two, and within 100 meters. The intent will be to make driving to work less convenient and, through incentives, government will make it difficult not to use public transport.

 

[JSOP]

Bills can and often are reverted. Sometimes, even international treaties are broken up over them (Brexit).

Good for Brit for standing up and reclaiming its sovereignty!!

 

[VicBee]

Good for Brit for standing up and reclaiming its sovereignty!!

Small people who like to smell each others arse holes to verify they're part of the same clan.

 

[JSOP]

Well if you are a Singaporean, you would know Singapore used to be a British colony and also was part of Malaysia at one point and yet Singapore became independent from both countries and established sovereignty of its own. So I guess Singaporeans are

Small people who like to smell each others arse holes to verify they're part of the same clan.

, according to you?

 

[VicBee]

Well if you are a Singaporean, you should know Singapore used to be a British colony and also was part of Malaysia at one point and yet Singapore became independent from both countries and established sovereignty of its own. So I guess Singaporeans are

, according to you?

I know you'd like to know where I'm from, after insisting I'm Chinese and now Singaporean. It's not a secret but I'm having fun keeping it from you.

If you knew your history you'd know England and Singapore have nothing in common, except Singapore owes its existence to England, at a time of great turmoil in the world and many countries breaking out of the straight jackets of colonialism. Singapore was a trading hub for Dutch and British merchants. Most of their local counterparts were Chinese merchants, much like so many Chinese living around the world today. The westerners saw that Chinese were hard workers, while the Malay were not. Malaysia was in no position to refuse British support for the Chinese enclave and didn't believe for a minute that they would survive on their own.
Singapore is a British creation that became a powerhouse due to Chinese work ethics, tenacity and a true benevolent dictator.
Britain has a very long cultural tradition and island mentality. 50 years of being a big, influential part of something greater than self came to a grinding halt, because nationalist politics won. At least we didn't all go to war over it. I can't wait to see how England fares with its European neighbors, its international standing and more difficult yet, its internal constituents. I understand the Irish and the Scots aren't all too happy about Brexit and they may do to the Brits what the Brits did to Europe.
I'm not supportive of micro states or the break-up of nations in general, so I don't support Scottish independence, but I support sticking Brit nationalist noses in their shit.

 

[JSOP]

I know you'd like to know where I'm from, after insisting I'm Chinese and now Singaporean. It's not a secret but I'm having fun keeping it from you.

You are a Chinese spy who likes to pretend to be an American. That's already established. I really don't give a s*** what else you say. If you read my post carefully (which you never do), I wrote "Well if you are a Singaporean" which I know you are not. LOL

I'm not supportive of micro states or the break-up of nations in general, so I don't support Scottish independence, but I support sticking Brit nationalist noses in their shit.

The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland is an independent country, has always been and always will be!! It's never a micro state that is part of any nation. EU is NOT a nation idiot!! EU is supposed to be "a political and economic union" according to Wikipedia. Now it's grown into a forced dictatorship that pushes the agenda of a few countries onto the rest through economic coercion, very much like what China is doing with many of the countries that it's "helping". Britain just joined the union as a mistake after ignoring what Margaret Thatcher has vehemently warned. And now it's righting the wrong by leaving the union. And very soon, you will see, all the countries will be leaving one by one.

 

[tomorton]

Fully autonomous vehicles are like fusion reactors. They will always be 10 years in the future.

And they will never work on UK roads.

 

[VicBee]

If you read my post carefully...
The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland is an independent country, has always been and always will be!! It's never a micro state that is part of any nation. EU is NOT a nation idiot!!

Please point to where I wrote that Europe is a nation. Are you on drugs? Because you make no sense.
Clearly you aren't Brit... United Kingdom of Great Britain.. go check Wikipedia or any trusted dictionary and revert back on the meaning of United Kingdom of Great Britain.

 

[Pricechange]

And they will never work on UK roads.

With full blown nut jobs like Elon, EV may also keep getting pushed into the future. Tesla may sell cars...but I would never buy a car from a doge pump and dump scam artist unless they separated him from the company completely. It may well be that the Chinese EVs become the most widely adapted world wide. And its also the Chinese EVs that are pressing Toyota the hardest. Tesla quality is very low. And their self driving will never be reliable as per their record of operation.

Listen guys...I know where you can buy a ticket to Mars...yes to Mars!

 

[terr]

https://www.yahoo.com/news/1-5-electric-vehicle-owners-164149467.html

I knew having 240 in my garage will pay off someday